Modern game audio

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I wanted to rant about the audio in modern games, I feel old games were vastly superior (especially RTS, TBS, SIM and Racing games):

Modern games do not forget the past by accident; they actively choose not to learn from it.

Older games understood that audio was a gameplay system, not decoration. Civilization changed its music by era and pacing, so progress was something you felt over time. Rise of Nations made aging up unmistakable; the music evolved with your civilization, instrumentation and tone shifted, and you immediately knew you had entered a new phase. Age of Empires I and II, before the remakes softened everything, treated sound as feedback. Being attacked had a sharp, urgent cue. Buildings had distinct construction sounds. Unit acknowledgements were short, dry, and readable. You could almost play blind with hotkeys and audio alone because sound carried meaning. AOE1 was such a backwards step when they remastered the audio in the DE.

Back in the day, audio was designed as a gameplay system. It carried information. You could hear escalation, danger, priority. Music knew when to shut up. Silence was allowed to exist. A big battle earned its soundtrack. A minor skirmish didn’t demand attention like a toddler on sugar.

This design philosophy was not limited to strategy games. Need for Speed Underground 2 and FlatOut 2 did the same thing in racing. Engines had character, not just loudness. You could hear rev ranges, gear changes, wheelspin, suspension stress, and surface differences clearly. Crashes in FlatOut 2 were brutal, readable, and satisfying because the audio sold mass and consequence. Music in NFSU2 blended with the driving without smothering it; it amplified adrenaline when things got intense but never erased the mechanical identity of the car. You knew what your vehicle was doing without staring at the HUD.

Compare that to many modern racing games and the contrast is painful. Engine sounds are often over-processed or over silenced, homogenized, and compressed into the same boring sound. Cars with wildly different drivetrains end up sounding suspiciously similar. Tire noise, gearbox whine, and mechanical detail are buried under constant music and cinematic effects. Crashes look spectacular but sound weightless. Everything is loud or silent, yet nothing is informative.

The same mistake repeats across genres. Modern audio design is obsessed with atmosphere and cinematic continuity. Music rarely stops. Ambience is always present. Dynamic range is crushed so nothing spikes too hard. The result sounds expensive, polished, and completely flat. There are no clear thresholds, no escalation logic, no respect for silence. Audio stops telling you what matters and becomes emotional wallpaper. Old games like Settlers 4 and Age of Mythology changed the music when in heavy combat.

The irony is that the lessons were already learned decades ago. From RTS games where you could react to danger purely by sound, to racing games where you drove by ear as much as by sight, audio once reduced cognitive load instead of adding to it. Modern design does not trust players to read subtle signals. It assumes constant stimulation is required, so audio becomes generic and interchangeable.

What was lost is not fidelity, budget, or technology. What was lost is restraint, hierarchy, and intent. And once you notice that, modern games do not just sound worse, they feel less playable. Why do modern games feel so flat, no dynamics at all in both music and sfx?
 
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I admit i didnt read your post in full but a few things came to mind while reading.

Some of todays racing sims have incredible audio that you would struggle to differentiate from the real thing, i know your mainly talking about arcade racing games but worth mentioning all the same.

Acr Raiders has probably the best audio of any game in any genre of the last decade or so-i could be wrong here but i cant think of any better.

I totally agree with you that sound and audio is somewhat overlooked in terms of importance when it comes to a big percentage of games and dev teams.
 
I admit i didnt read your post in full but a few things came to mind while reading.

Some of todays racing sims have incredible audio that you would struggle to differentiate from the real thing, i know your mainly talking about arcade racing games but worth mentioning all the same.

Acr Raiders has probably the best audio of any game in any genre of the last decade or so-i could be wrong here but i cant think of any better.

I totally agree with you that sound and audio is somewhat overlooked in terms of importance when it comes to a big percentage of games and dev teams.
Sorry, hard disagree on Arc Raiders having the best audio. It’s actually quite poor at localising sounds particularly with respect to distance. Heck, even within the extraction shooter genre other games do it better.
 
Thief 1& 2 had the most incredible audio system using EAX audio extensions. Proper 3D audio, reverb, and it modelled sound propagation, both for you and for the enemies.

Still if you want proper immersive 3D audio, then VR is where it's at. It relies on positional sound placement. When you're talking to other players in a 3D VR environment their voices appear to be coming from their location in the game world, which is incredibly immersive.
 
Some of todays racing sims have incredible audio that you would struggle to differentiate from the real thing
like what? I'm yet to see a game even get close to the crappy mic recording of a mobile phone video.


how many games have an audi quattro that sounds anything like this?
or this
or this
 
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I totally agree with you that sound and audio is somewhat overlooked in terms of importance when it comes to a big percentage of games and dev teams.

My point is the opposite, the dynamic range is gone in most games, audio: both music and SFX are very normalized and compressed.

And yeah mainly arcade racers are guilty of this, but also remakes/definitie editions of games.
I usually would like the upgraded resolution and graphics, but keep the classic UI, SFX and Music (or just add extra music, but keep the originals the same).
 
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like what? I'm yet to see a game even get close to the crappy mic recording of a mobile phone video.


how many games have an audi quattro that sounds anything like this?
or this
or this
I think Dirt Rally 2 has an Quattro you can race. Was great fun with my racing rig when I had it.

205 kit car sounded good

 
Sorry, hard disagree on Arc Raiders having the best audio. It’s actually quite poor at localising sounds particularly with respect to distance. Heck, even within the extraction shooter genre other games do it better.
Seen so much about how technically amazing Arc Raiders sound is. I love the game, so not hating but its very difficult to determine how far away sounds are. Sometimes it sounds like something is directly overhead and its nowhere near. When a matriarch is roaming around it actually sounds as if it is on top of me. I thought it was just my sound set up but Im running Arctic Steel series phones from a PS5. Theres not a whole load of steps I can get wrong.
Its pretty good when indoors though tbh.
 
Seen so much about how technically amazing Arc Raiders sound is. I love the game, so not hating but its very difficult to determine how far away sounds are. Sometimes it sounds like something is directly overhead and its nowhere near. When a matriarch is roaming around it actually sounds as if it is on top of me. I thought it was just my sound set up but Im running Arctic Steel series phones from a PS5. Theres not a whole load of steps I can get wrong.
Its pretty good when indoors though tbh.
You don’t have anything set up wrong - the audio is very flawed in this game. There’s a lot of glazing going on obfuscating its technical issues.
 
I'm a little bit out the loop with game audio (slowly getting back into the gaming hobby) - I used to run an Asus Xonar Essence STX many years ago which served me well.

However I don't see many sound cards in builds these days. Is most of the audio handled by the CPU now, or have motherboard DACs improved dramatically, or is there some other reason? (sorry this is a bit of a tangent from the OP)
 
I'm a little bit out the loop with game audio (slowly getting back into the gaming hobby) - I used to run an Asus Xonar Essence STX many years ago which served me well.

However I don't see many sound cards in builds these days. Is most of the audio handled by the CPU now, or have motherboard DACs improved dramatically, or is there some other reason? (sorry this is a bit of a tangent from the OP)

I only use a soundcard to get optical out. Otherwise I'd use onboard optical.

If I knew HDMI out was going to be a problem, I'd have bought a motherboard with optical out.
 
I recall moving a SB something F4tality between quite a few pcs. Which I’d then pair with some very low range speakers (usually Logitech) but eyes opened after someone suggested my first decent pair of headphones which were AT M50s I think.
I’m not a connoisseur by any stretch, heck I use the Dolby atmos virtualisation for my headphones but I like the movie warm setting.

I can’t recall a game I really thought sounded good except the Division but that wasn’t a true reflection as I think I was using a soundblaster X7 at the time with its virtualised surround sound which tbh I thought worked well.
 
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Any tips on removing my non approved W11 soundcard to HDMI?

AVR is HDMI 2.0
PC has GPU, choice of HDMI on the GPU or onboard

Whenever I use it it sees the AVR as a display device, so I need to enable extended screen which I don't want, as the mouse moves off the side of the screen. Mirror doesn't work as since the AVR as seen as 1080p means wasting my 180hz 1440p panel, plus driving a fake screen that isn't there is wasting GPU power.

I only want the HDMI audio side from PC to AVR not any Video EDID forcing it to be seen as a display
 
Any tips on removing my non approved W11 soundcard to HDMI?

AVR is HDMI 2.0
PC has GPU, choice of HDMI on the GPU or onboard

Whenever I use it it sees the AVR as a display device, so I need to enable extended screen which I don't want, as the mouse moves off the side of the screen. Mirror doesn't work as since the AVR as seen as 1080p means wasting my 180hz 1440p panel, plus driving a fake screen that isn't there is wasting GPU power.

I only want the HDMI audio side from PC to AVR not any Video EDID forcing it to be seen as a display

If you right click your desktop and go into display settings, select the 'phantom' AVR screen and select 'disconnect display' and apply.
Windows will no longer extend your display (your mouse won't move off screen), but audio via HDMI will remain.

...at least this is how I had it running a couple years back without issue, not sure if things have changed since then. These days I run GPU -> HDMI -> Display [LG C2] -> eARC -> AVR without issue, but I can test my above suggestion when I get back home tonight
 
If you right click your desktop and go into display settings, select the 'phantom' AVR screen and select 'disconnect display' and apply.
Windows will no longer extend your display (your mouse won't move off screen), but audio via HDMI will remain.

...at least this is how I had it running a couple years back without issue, not sure if things have changed since then. These days I run GPU -> HDMI -> Display [LG C2] -> eARC -> AVR without issue, but I can test my above suggestion when I get back home tonight

cheers will give that a try. Also means get HD audio
 
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