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Modern iGPU = what era flagship?
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Thanks for this thread - I've just done some digging and looked into the 8700G so I could add it to my GPU Hierarchy thread - as @dave28 said the 8700G is around 780 Performance
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*** GPU Hierarchy ***
NVIDIAAMDINTELTier - Suggested Resolution/FPS RTX 5090 Tier A - "Elite Tier" RTX 4090 RTX 5080 Tier B RTX 4080 Super RTX 4080 RTX 5070TiRX 7900XTX RX 9070XT Tier C RTX 4070Ti Super RTX 3090Ti RTX 5070 RTX 4070TiRX 7900XT RX 9070 Tier D - 4K 60fps / 1440P 144fps RTX 3090 RTX 4070...
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Non-APU chips are still a long way from playable settings
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AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Review - The Best Gaming Processor
The Ryzen 7 9800X3D establishes AMD as the leader in gaming performance. This Zen 5-based X3D chip is not only fast, it also comes with full support for overclocking. Besides gaming, application performance is considerably improved over the 7800X3D, but that comes at a price.
Think they are the best APU going right now but they are very expensive.
AMD claim like a 4070 but thats probably optimisic maybe 4060 mobile.
So something like a GTX 1080 Ti?
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It's a shame how little AMD seem to care about their desktop APUs now. The 8700G was a bit of a let down, especially with how god awful their non-soldered IHS chips are for temps.
They'll always be limited by the DDR speeds, but it'd be nice to see a little more effort on their flagship desktop APU.
They'll always be limited by the DDR speeds, but it'd be nice to see a little more effort on their flagship desktop APU.
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Built a PC for my niece that had a 8500G in it. Initially wasn't meant for gaming just GCSE work but it soon replaced the ageing Xbox One S as choice of gaming platform. For the most it performed ok but during long gaming sessions would just green screen after a while.
It performed better than I expected for games and certainly better than any reviews suggested it would perform but in the end stuck a 9060XT in as it just wasn't up to the job
It performed better than I expected for games and certainly better than any reviews suggested it would perform but in the end stuck a 9060XT in as it just wasn't up to the job
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its a shame they havnt done a variant of the x3d chips but with a really strong igpu [strong by igpu standards i mean obviously lol im not expecting high end onboard here lol]
purely because then we could use the igpu to run lossless scaling and the dgpu to do the rendering and ray tracing etc not sure if a good enough igpu is doable though without having other knock on issues least of all pricing probably be cheaper to buy a second gpu and a regular 9800x3d for example but im sure i cant be the only person to have at least thought that might be something appealing to some people at least lol
purely because then we could use the igpu to run lossless scaling and the dgpu to do the rendering and ray tracing etc not sure if a good enough igpu is doable though without having other knock on issues least of all pricing probably be cheaper to buy a second gpu and a regular 9800x3d for example but im sure i cant be the only person to have at least thought that might be something appealing to some people at least lol
I like to test out encoding performance when I can, I used the iGPU on my 7800X3D which only has 2 compute units or graphics core count of 2 but it still managed a stream, just the quality wasnt great, still doable but not exactly on x264 level, which on the 7800X3D the x264 encoding quality is really good at 936p using Fast preset, it actually looks better than Nvenc IMO. I think AMD iGPU's need to work on this, get them using AV1 or at least use HEVC.. its such a difference to H.264.
If this 9700X3D is real I might just buy one as I know it'll handle these tasks a tad better than what I already have
I just love tinkering with these things
If this 9700X3D is real I might just buy one as I know it'll handle these tasks a tad better than what I already have
I just love tinkering with these things
Just to be clear, if you're buying for that reason, you're aware that the IGP is the same, right? The 7000/9000 both use RDNA2, but you need RDNA3 for AV1 support.I think AMD iGPU's need to work on this, get them using AV1 or at least use HEVC.. its such a difference to H.264.
If this 9700X3D is real I might just buy one as I know it'll handle these tasks a tad better than what I already have
Yes, most of the handheld gaming PCs are built around these, they play games just fine, blimey my daughter used to play minecraft and roblox on a 3400G years ago, the Ryzen Ai 9 HX370 (crap name) with Radeon 890M is leagues ahead.
The HX370 is Zen5 so strong CPU backup for some of these games that utilize that, emulators etc.
A small performance comparison of some of my iGPUs, my 790M and 890M are not the best showing for the chips as they are in a TDP compromised steamdeck style handhelds, in a desktop environment they should be 10-15% faster.
Result
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An Ai Max chip would be 2-3x the 890M but because of its AI abilities, it has a price that goes along with it.
Yea I know its the same iGPU, but with the 9000 Series being better chips it helps running other stuff at the same time. An example would be how I set the iGPU to be used for Serato Dj Pro when I Dj while being logged into a virtual world (Second Life = loves CPU power) and doing other stuff so IPC gains etc will give me more performance in that while still using the iGPU if that makes sense.
Also Twitch does not have AV1 rolled out to everyone yet and HEVC rollout is only for a select few which is why I use x264 on my CPU, I was really surprised how well the 7800X3D does x264, my 5800X3D wasnt able to do much more than 720p without hitting 100% usage.. the 7800X3D does 936p at around 50% usage.
Edit.. upon hearing about the 9700X3D being fake, I guess I'll wait for the 10800X3D
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