MOM 2007

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RSR

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Hi Chaps,

I am currently starting to look at MOM2007, currently i am running a demo of it in a VM and reading thru the white papers on it with a view to buy it shortly if its good enough.

Does any one use this in there current environment? If so what are there views and opinions on this software.

Thanks

Andy
 
It's alright, just need to make sure you get all the alerts etc setup correctly else you'll either get non stop emails or nothing at all :p
 
R34P3R said:
I personally find it rather difficult to configure.
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I’ve been using the MS virtual labs at the mo and it seems fairly straight forward. That said though demoing it on the test domain may proof a bit different.

Andy
 
andyd said:
about 15/20 Servers, 2 SANS, 2 NAS & few other little bits.
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I've totally blanked on the costs but worth a shot then, it's not that hard to setup at all just need to configure it in a decent way so it catches what you want it to :)
 
Unless you get academic/charitable pricing, it might be worth looking at alternatives, depending what you want to achieve.

We use a Mutiny network monitor appliance, gives a nice graphical overview through a web interface and collects data by SNMP. Then it'll alert by net send, text message or email. You're probably looking at a few k for the box and licenses, depending on how much you want to monitor.
 
I assume by 'MOM 2007', you mean SCCM 2007? ;)
Anyway, its a pain in the rear.
Its really ment to help make our lives easyier, but tbh, it seems to make more work than it takes away.
 
BoomAM said:
I assume by 'MOM 2007', you mean SCCM 2007? ;)
Anyway, its a pain in the rear.
Its really ment to help make our lives easyier, but tbh, it seems to make more work than it takes away.
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No they actually mean SCOM (system centre operations manager) 2007 but people still refer to it as mom (microsoft operations manager) :)

Basically a server/system monitoring tool.

And SCCM/SMS is fine if setup/used properly :p ;) Before I was brought in as an SMS contractor at my current place it was a mess as the previous contractors could only be described as cowboys tbh. All sorted quite quickly though and works very very well (now!) :)

A bad SMS/SCCM setup will cause more harm than good and will wind people up no end, my boss when I started just had one request "make it work" lol

My rates are reasonable if you want a hand :) (or just mail my trust address, always happy to chat about the thrilling world of sms...)
 
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Ev0 said:
No they actually mean SCOM (system centre operations manager) 2007 but people still refer to it as mom (microsoft operations manager) :)

Basically a server/system monitoring tool.

And SCCM/SMS is fine if setup/used properly :p ;) Before I was brought in as an SMS contractor at my current place it was a mess as the previous contractors could only be described as cowboys tbh. All sorted quite quickly though and works very very well (now!) :)

A bad SMS/SCCM setup will cause more harm than good and will wind people up no end, my boss when I started just had one request "make it work" lol

My rates are reasonable if you want a hand :) (or just mail my trust address, always happy to chat about the thrilling world of sms...)
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Setting it up isnt the problem.
The clients are out there, after much faffing, WSUS is now being seen, hardware inventory & software metering is working, ive made some custom reports. WoL has been enabled, un-needed agents disabled to reduce client resource usage.

But its still a right faff.
Its ment to make our lives easyier, but it just plain doesnt imo.

WSUS, unless im doing it wrong just plain annoys me too.
With plain WSUS it downloads, i tell it when to make available and what, and the GPOs do the rest. Job done.
With SCCM, i point it at the fresh new WSUS box, it ignores everything but its database, asks for a deployment point to be setup, then re-downloads all the stuff itself, wasting bandwidth, and even then it only does that, and advertises for deployment when ive set a template or two for it. And i have to go back to it everytime new updates are released and do the entire process again!
I mean come on, either im doing the WSUS bit wrong or something has been shoehorned in there! lol. :p.

And the software deployment thing is annoying too. Admitadly ive only spent a few mins faffing with that bit, but come on, GPOs, select the MSI/where to deploy from, job done.
SCCM, select a deployment point, move the data, select the MSI, select the transforms, template done. Apply template to collection, set advertisement time.

Basically, for what i need it for at the moment, apart from scheduling when to deploy software/updates, theres not a lot it can do that makes my life easyier.
 
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Valid points if you don't need the reporting and flexibility of software deploment that SCCM offers, or any of the other stuff like the inventories, bandwidth control etc, don't use it :) Remember SMS (sorry I keep calling it that, habit!) is designed more for a large-ish multi site operation.

For instance using a gpo to deploy a package to machines at say 10 different locations worldwide, would you have to create 10 gpos one for each physical location so that they are running the installer on a link 'local'/best suited for them? I've no idea as I've only used the GPO stuff in a test lab.

For us GPOs alone don't offer the functionality and flexibility we need.
 
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For instance using a gpo to deploy a package to machines at say 10 different locations worldwide, would you have to create 10 gpos one for each physical location so that they are running the installer on a link 'local'/best suited for them? I've no idea as I've only used the GPO stuff in a test lab.
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Nah, you'd use one GPO & DFS.
 
I've been looking into SCOM 2007 recently myself. We have a 100ish servers and I just want a central place to monitor stuff, looks pretty complicated to me, night even have to read a book or something...arrgghh

I would have thought it was a bit overkill if you only have 15/20 servers, I think Essentials 2007 is more tailored for small businesses.
 
Lanz said:
I've been looking into SCOM 2007 recently myself. We have a 100ish servers and I just want a central place to monitor stuff, looks pretty complicated to me, night even have to read a book or something...arrgghh

I would have thought it was a bit overkill if you only have 15/20 servers, I think Essentials 2007 is more tailored for small businesses.
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Its not too expensive so thats one of the reasons for the full SCOM2007 suite.

Interesting thoughts guys.

Ill have to get this setup and ill report back.

Thanks

Andy
 
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