Mondeo ST220 are they worth the money?

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Hi! have noticed quite a few owners/enthusiasts of the Mondeo ST220 on here so would like some advice on the crazy prices they seem to be going for at the moment and are they worth the money?
Since passing my test i have owned 3 petrol Focus's and have never had any faults with any of them. I was meant to purchase a St220 last year but once again opted to get another Focus for the reliablity factor.
Now im ready to buy one and not only is there hardly any about "been looking for 6 months every week"! they seem to be around £800 more expensive than 12 months ago.
Your talking 4k for a 2004 with +60k miles and 2005+ seem to be between £4000-£7000:eek:
I have always wanted one they look amazing but not only am i getting bored waiting for a good one to come up within 100 miles for a reasonable price i have started looking at other models or cars so is it worth waiting for a good one or not?
Budget is 4.5k max. And for that im only looking at a 2004 ST220 really. For that money i could get a 2005 Bmw 325I in the newer shape, 2006 Audi A4, Mazda 3 MPS or for a lot less a Jaguar X Type sport 3.0 v6 which is even faster than the St220 and about a grand less for same age. Also the 3.0 Titanium X on a 06 seem to go for about a grand less than the ST and are nearly as fast.
 
There is quite a high premium for low mileage ST220s as they are a rare subset of an already fairly rare car.

£4k should be enough for a tidy example if you don't mind it having done over 60k miles.

Remember the cars you're looking at are 9-10 years old now so you need to be reasonable with mileage expectations.
 
Also:

BMW 325 - slower, more costly to run

Audi A4 - yawn

Mazda 3 MPS - A good one for "£4.5k max", really?

Jag X Type - A more complex beast and generally a different nature of vehicle.
 
Imy said:
There is quite a high premium for low mileage ST220s as they are a rare subset of an already fairly rare car.

£4k should be enough for a tidy example if you don't mind it having done over 60k miles.

Remember the cars you're looking at are 9-10 years old now so you need to be reasonable with mileage expectations.
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Im fully prepared for it to have around 60k on the clock for my budget and i know there not going to be mint etc.

Howard said:
Also:

BMW 325 - slower, more costly to run

Audi A4 - yawn

Mazda 3 MPS - A good one for "£4.5k max", really?

Jag X Type - A more complex beast and generally a different nature of vehicle.
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The 2 Mazda Mps's i have seen on an 07 for 4.5k over the months had around 80k on and with the Turbo etc being expensive i decided against them. Was wondeing why the 3.0 X type sport was around a grand cheaper for same age and miles etc as the ST220. Il have to find one to test drive to compare. Would like to stick with Ford but im just getting bored waiting.

Was wondering is it worth paying the higher tax on an 06? as prices for a 04/54 are alomost the same as some of the 06 plates just because of the road tax. Is there anything different on them apart from the chrome bits and rear lights?

How long did it take any of u guys to find one? im prepared to go upto 120 miles away. The only one near me last month was an 04 with 85k and a big tow bar on the back. Was a shed and dealer wanted £3500 :mad:
 
Fr0dders said:
surely you want to be looking at the 6 MPS ?
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I know there fast but just think its looks really dated for the shape in my 4.5k budget. Thats partly why i want the ST220 as theres not many 10 year old cars that still look as modern and are real head turners like them. They just stand out from the crowd especially in the St blue
 
Why limit yourself to 120 miles for the right car? What about the perfect car that is 121 miles away? Set the search to National and then decide if the car is worth your interest. A car that is 120 miles away cross-country and a car that is 200 miles away might take the same amount of time to get to.

The X-Type isn't particularly good, especially the auto. This is why they are cheaper.
 
Personally i'd just ditch your mileage requirement - or at least substantially widen it. Say 100k, will make no difference to the quality of car you'll be able to find.

I'd have no problem picking up a 2004 st220 for say £3.5-4k if it was in very good condition. You'd struggle to find a 2005 325ci sport in the same condition for the same money, though they do exist.

As above they aren't quite comparable in terms of straight line performance.

£4k 6 mps would be a brave leap - though worth considering, a 3 mps don't even go there, they're worth a good bit more in good condition.

X type, don't waste your time (imo).

Also consider where you can get to on a cheap (return) train ticket, that's more important to me than actual distance. It's far more expensive for me to get to Aberdeen on a train than it is say Manchester (not that i'd advise going there for a car) - though one's about 1.5x the distance away
 
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Dav4 said:
How long did it take any of u guys to find one? im prepared to go upto 120 miles away. The only one near me last month was an 04 with 85k and a big tow bar on the back. Was a shed and dealer wanted £3500 :mad:
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Ah, i bought the first one i seen. Over the top FSH with a ford dealer service every 6 months or 5k miles, 74k miles i think, 54plate, 4 brand new Perrelli P Zero tyres. Was up for £3600 but i got him down to £2900 due to the wheels needing a refurb and it had the rear bumper sag (20p fix).

Don't buy an 06, there is no need. Would make me feel sick handing over £460 every year to drive on these **** awful roads.

Costs:
Insurance is cheap
Tyres about £120 a corner
I get 50 miles to £20 (mixed driving)
Servicing aint too bad you just have to remember it is a big 6 pot, not a little 4 pot like in your Focus.
Parts aint too expensive, Its a Ford after all....
New exhaust you will be buying when you get one will be about £500

Mine has been very reliable.One of the cats died but that was my fault going through a little puddle that turned out to be a lake.

Awesome car and very surprising.
 
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Im fully prepared for it to have around 60k on the clock for my budget and i know there not going to be mint etc.
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I was trying to say 60k counts as low mileage for a 9-10 year old ST220 so therefore commands a premium. You need to be looking at higher mileage (e.g. 80k) if you don't want to pay that premium.
 
DRZ said:
Why limit yourself to 120 miles for the right car? What about the perfect car that is 121 miles away? Set the search to National and then decide if the car is worth your interest. A car that is 120 miles away cross-country and a car that is 200 miles away might take the same amount of time to get to.

The X-Type isn't particularly good, especially the auto. This is why they are cheaper.
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I search national and there is never more than say 60 for sale. Most of the really far away seem to always be Scotland for some reason. If there was a really special one i would go further but if i travel all that way and its a lemon which has happened then its a huge waste of petrol.
I have heard about bad X type's etc thats why i would only look at the 3.0 petrol sport manual and it seems as good a quality as the St220 for a grand less just doesnt look as good.

rodenal said:
Personally i'd just ditch your mileage requirement - or at least substantially widen it. Say 100k, will make no difference to the quality of car you'll be able to find.

I'd have no problem picking up a 2004 st220 for say £3.5-4k if it was in very good condition. You'd struggle to find a 2005 325ci sport in the same condition for the same money, though they do exist.

As above they aren't quite comparable in terms of straight line performance.

£4k 6 mps would be a brave leap - though worth considering, a 3 mps don't even go there, they're worth a good bit more in good condition.

X type, don't waste your time (imo).

Also consider where you can get to on a cheap (return) train ticket, that's more important to me than actual distance. It's far more expensive for me to get to Aberdeen on a train than it is say Manchester (not that i'd advise going there for a car) - though one's about 1.5x the distance away
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Thats the problem im also having most for sale have done 90+000 miles and arent most cars on there last legs by then in terms of the clutch and gearbox which are both expensive problems.
good point about taking the train i had not took that into consideration. only problem is if the seller is miles away from any station.
Ideally i want to sell my car private to get max amount but seems as its taking so long to find a good ST i cant afford to go months without a car.
 
I don't see why 90k would be any issue for the box?

In terms of clutch...it might be, might not be. Could easily have been changed. Your 50-60k cars may well have spent all their life in the centre of town which will muller the clutch too.

Most sellers will happily pick you up from the station if you arrange in advance. I've picked a buyer up 20 miles away from the airport before, they guy was giving me £6k, I was more than happy to oblige!
 
Rybo89 said:
Ah, i bought the first one i seen. Over the top FSH with a ford dealer service every 6 months or 5k miles, 74k miles i think, 54plate, 4 brand new Perrelli P Zero tyres. Was up for £3600 but i got him down to £2900 due to the wheels needing a refurb and it had the rear bumper sag (20p fix).

Don't buy an 06, there is no need. Would make me feel sick handing over £460 every year to drive on these **** awful roads.

Costs:
Insurance is cheap
Tyres about £120 a corner
I get 50 miles to £20 (mixed driving)
Servicing aint too bad you just have to remember it is a big 6 pot, not a little 4 pot like in your Focus.
Parts aint too expensive, Its a Ford after all....
New exhaust you will be buying when you get one will be about £500

Mine has been very reliable.One of the cats died but that was my fault going through a little puddle that turned out to be a lake.

Awesome car and very surprising.
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I think i will end up buying the next one that comes up aswell :) Thats how desperate i am getting. I only want ST blue or black and maybe grey if its a good one.
See 12 months ago when i was close to buying people were struggling to get rid sometimes with the poor MPG figures etc and great deals could be had but now nobody is budging as they seem to think they are as rare as a damn Sierra Cosworth or something :D
I know its gonna be pricey for tyres and petrol etc but then again my Focus only gets 38mpg cos i rag it.
My dad gets discount on all Ford parts so shouldnt be too bad for them and i plan on doing mods like Milltek exhausts etc
 
I bought the first one I saw too, because I was happy with its condition and history.

Mine's on 109k and it feels no different to when I bought it at 54k 4 years ago. It's all in how they're looked after.
 
Howard said:
I bought the first one I saw too, because I was happy with its condition and history.

Mine's on 109k and it feels no different to when I bought it at 54k 4 years ago. It's all in how they're looked after.
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Good point. Its just that the cars i have looked at over the years the higher mileage one's are alway tired and old feeling but as u say if its been cared for the one with 100k might be ok.
Ideally i would like to buy private from someone who has a love for the car and has cared for it so if anyone is selling let me know :D

I suppose this looks too good to be true
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-MONDEO-3-0-V6-ST220-EXCELLENT-CONDITION-MUST-SEE-/111328923866?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item19ebb890da
 
Its an auction. If you are nearby, go have a look and prepare to bid on it.

Edit: it has rusty arches and the exhaust is hanging...it as had a right rear knock...Avoid.....
 
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Rybo89 said:
Its an auction. If you are nearby, go have a look and prepare to bid on it.

Edit: it has rusty arches and the exhaust is hanging...it as had a right rear knock...Avoid.....
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yeh its most likely going to be a shed isnt it otherwise they would be wanting well over 3k for it. Is it the right side exhaust hanging further down? how can u tell its had a knock/?
 
They probably do want that. It isn't a classified ad, they have just started the auction at £2500.

My guess is that you are not very experienced when it comes to looking at a new car?

£4k-4.5k will get you a very good condition ST220 if you look in the right places, Autotrader, eBay and Pistonheads will be the best places to look. Feel free to post any of links on here and people will look over them for you.
 
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