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More Leaks point to simply amazing Integer Performance for Steamroller in this Cosmology Benchmark!

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More Leaks point to simply amazing Integer Performance for Steamroller in this Cosmology Benchmark!

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Thats over 1100% the jump we saw from Bulldozer to Piledriver! Take these results with a grain of salt! ;)

The loss of performance in the floating point calculation could be due to a lack of L3 cache in comparison to its FX brethren. Compare AMD FX 4350 to AMD A10-6800k to see this difference!

http://amdfx.blogspot.co.uk/
 
Yeah as per my comment here http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=25191281&postcount=664 likely to see >30% gains when comparing like for like with the older archtecture(s) in areas like that.

On paper should make them competitive with Intel though probably won't be enough to shake Intel's world (should be enough to shake up pricing a bit and make them a fully viable alternative for gaming again).
 
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If they can gain an average of 30%, then it'll be very good, and in the mainstream segment, pretty brilliant.

Depends on pricing though really, if they've got a cracking product, they'll charge for it.

That said, I'm not going to put any stock in results coming from a vastly AMD biased blog :p
 
Haha, I really want AMD to bring it with Steamroller, force competition like they did with Nvidia and 290X.

Would move to a Steamroller 8+ core setup in a heartbeat.
 
Why do you link to rubbish like that ?

The blogger has clearly lost touch with reality and is almost certain to have been trained in the ways of FUD at AMDZONE.
 
The general architectural knowledge behind Steamroller is not small or unknown at this point, many of the upgrades and tweaks are known and it's very reasonable to assumed 25% average performance improvement and potentially massively more in particular situations.

One of the biggest things being 4 instruction decoder shared per module to 4 instruction decoder per core in each module, minimum double the instruction decoding power allowing a core to be filled significantly more often. It's also beefed up afaik and can in multiple situations can decode more types of instructions more efficiently.

Effectively their module move was very good, die size wise it's a complete and utter win, they just needed more efficiency and a little more space to widen each core and fit in things like two decoders per core. 28nm + high density libraries used when laying out the core mean there is enough space to do octo core right basically. Without the module concept they wouldn't be remotely close to fitting 8 core designs into a similar die size.

Bulldozer as a whole was a long term architecture that had a CRAPLOAD of stuff focused on HSA in it from day one. Steamroller is set to be pretty impressive, Excavator maybe even better. The only potential downside with Steamroller is timing, a new ddr3 platform launched say Q1 next year, for ddr4 platforms to be available by the end of the year wouldn't be fantastic for them. While I'd kill for a octo Steamroller sometime h1 2014, I can see the logic(though my patience would be worn very thin) waiting to make a Steamroller or even Excavator ddr4 platform and not wanting to have a 6 month or so "dead end" platform. Personally I have zero issue with getting a octo core ddr3 based mobo/setup for now and changing again in a year or two but others wouldn't like it and OEM's likely wouldn't like it.
 
Perhaps that's why we're hearing rumours of them not bringing SR Octo cores to desktop and instead skipping to excavator.

Although I've only heard that rumour from one source here.
 
I've heard it but it's unclear basically, it's difficult to know. You get points in times where timing you makes everything awkward, you have a core ready but a new process is months away, or you're waiting for ddr4. Long term it's crazy difficult to predict, you can hear for 5 years that ddr4 is going into mass production by say 2013, plan accordingly even with a year's delay and then find it's not ready till 2015. It's been rumoured that Intel's recent delay is down to both process issues and due to ddr4 and having the platform based around ddr4.

At some point AMD should realise that sometimes money and profit aren't the only goals for doing things. R290x I don't think will be particularly profitable, large volume but being able to beat Nvidia's top core IS important. Even if Steamroller ddr3 platforms were only around for a year, they should do it, for all the people upset by it(or who like to pretend to be on forums) it wouldn't be any worse than what Intel do, would give AMD a better cpu sooner, be genuinely competitive and establish them as capable which is an important image to project.

I want to upgrade, I hate my p67 board, I could do with a bit more cpu speed, but not much, I want more sata 3 ports and a more stable board(it's been acting up lately). But paying more today than I did 2+ years ago I think for a new quad core from Intel that is what 15% faster, and a new mobo that is also more expensive for essentially a few more sata 3 ports(that should have been on this mobo to start with) is all very unappealing. While an actual 8 core, and a damned good one at that, seems a worthwhile upgrade.
 
Unfortunately AMD have been extremely quiet about the desktop/FX side of streamroller based CPU's for quite sometime, the only news has been Kaveri related and even then there have been pretty tight lipped with not much indication of actual performance being let out.
 
It's a significant improvement over Piledriver but you have been able to buy Intel processors with "simply amazing" integer performance for years now if that's what this is.
 
If AMD get better thermal efficiency and comparable clock per clock performance (IPC). I would leave Intel today and that is after 10 or so years of using them (flawlessly). I last had an AMD cpu back when you could OC 2500M to 3.6Ghz....Those were the good old days.

I would imagine with the extra revenue generated by the next gen console APU sales AMD with get preferential rates at the large chip fabs and who knows might bring the fight back to INTEL with a super chip..
 
God I hope that's true, would hopefully shake the CPU market up :)

Slightly OT but love the way the link in OP has them ripping the 780Ti for "only" having 3GB RAM, didn't they release a big "3GB r bestest!" campaign the other month? :P
 
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