mother!

XeNoN89 · 18 Sep 2017 at 13:35

Vonhelmet said:
It's a film that spends more than half its runtime looking at Jennifer Lawrence's face reacting to things. Only you know whether you can deal with that.

I'd rather it was looking at somewhere other than her face but i'm sure I can handle that

DrToffnar · 18 Sep 2017 at 14:00

Vonhelmet said:
I read that Aranofsky didn't want it heavily marketed because he didn't want it talked about too much for fear of spoiling it.

It doesn't really matter. If you tell people it's an Aranofsky film in the vein of Requiem for a Dream then there is a crowd who will want to watch it no matter what, and a crowd who will be immediately put off. You can't really outmarket that.

That's a very, very good point.

Vonhelmet said:
It's a film that spends more than half its runtime looking at Jennifer Lawrence's face reacting to things. Only you know whether you can deal with that.

But what a face! There's A LOT of close up over the shoulder shots too. It's such a claustrophobic movie. Maybe 4 wide shots throughout the whole flick as far as I can remember.

Raymond Lin · 18 Sep 2017 at 15:14

JediFragger said:
Agreed, I wasn't sure wth it was supposed to be about!!

It's a symbolism movie...to talk about it would ruin it, you are meant to have your own interpretation of what the story is about.

It's actually very hard to discuss this movie beyond a sentence in that there are 2 main characters and they live in a house, the rest of it would kinda give it away. I think Kermode's movie review gives away too much.

Vonhelmet · 18 Sep 2017 at 15:18

I listened to his review and thought it sounded like he gave a lot away. A bit rich given they mumbled their way through my email about Limehouse Golem for giving too much away!

DrToffnar · 18 Sep 2017 at 15:22

Raymond Lin said:
It's a symbolism movie...to talk about it would ruin it, you are meant to have your own interpretation of what the story is about.

It's actually very hard to discuss this movie beyond a sentence in that there are 2 main characters and they live in a house, the rest of it would kinda give it away. I think Kermode's movie review gives away too much.

Agreed. Watched his review after and couldn't believe he was telling people! Though tbf, whilst I could see the other themes in studied hindsight, there was only one that sprang to mind immediately after leaving the screening...

Her being 'Mother Nature' and him being 'God'.

A part of me thinks it's too on the nose, another part thinks that it doesn't really matter if it is.

Tombstone · 18 Sep 2017 at 16:07

DrToffnar said:
Agreed. Watched his review after and couldn't believe he was telling people! Though tbf, whilst I could see the other themes in studied hindsight, there was only one that sprang to mind immediately after leaving the screening...

Her being 'Mother Nature' and him being 'God'.

A part of me thinks it's too on the nose, another part thinks that it doesn't really matter if it is.

Yup, its all very biblical. Man and Woman.. Adam and Eve. Two brothers with one who kills the other.. Cain and Abel

xtal191 · 18 Sep 2017 at 19:34

Is it scary? I'm awful with horrors

Freakbro · 20 Sep 2017 at 09:14

Well.....I can see why that isn't going to be a big commercial success

My friend and I enjoyed it though, a slight bit of bias for myself with my like of DA, but my mate enjoyed it more than he thought he was going to.

Obviously you have to view the whole film in a totally allegorical sense and I'm not that keen with all the religious overtones he is throwing in his films, but I loved the camera work and the claustrophobic feel it projected, a bit like Son of Saul

That bit at the end didn't bother me tbh, since it wasn't a literal baby, just a metaphorical one.

Cleisthenes · 20 Sep 2017 at 09:53

Freakbro said:
Spoliers?

That bit at the end might be seen as a mild spoiler. I for one would have preferred that I didn't know it!

Freakbro · 20 Sep 2017 at 10:19

Cleisthenes said:
That bit at the end might be seen as a mild spoiler. I for one would have preferred that I didn't know it!

Sorry!

Cleisthenes · 20 Sep 2017 at 10:21

Freakbro said:
Sorry!

No worries, by the time I watch it I'll have forgotten anyway

DrToffnar · 21 Sep 2017 at 09:05

Freakbro said:
Well.....I can see why that isn't going to be a big commercial success

My friend and I enjoyed it though, a slight bit of bias for myself with my like of DA, but my mate enjoyed it more than he thought he was going to.

Obviously you have to view the whole film in a totally allegorical sense and I'm not that keen with all the religious overtones he is throwing in his films, but I loved the camera work and the claustrophobic feel it projected, a bit like Son of Saul

That bit at the end didn't bother me tbh, since it wasn't a literal baby, just a metaphorical one.

It was more her reaction to the event that troubled then the visuals which, by in large, aren't quite so graphic in an of themselves. Though obviously, it's a pretty horrific thing to even hint at...

XeNoN89 · 1 Jan 2018 at 20:00

Finally got around to watching this....my initial impression was something like 'WTF DID I JUST WATCH?!'

Yeh it's pretty weird and I had to Google he meaning of it as soon as it finished because I literally had no idea what was going on

I didn't hate it, but can see why some people would!

krooton · 2 Jan 2018 at 09:11

Did you guys notice wound near the ribs where the dude was puking, then the wife suddenly turning up also being a nod to Adam & Eve?

XeNoN89 · 4 Jan 2018 at 10:21

krooton said:
Did you guys notice wound near the ribs where the dude was puking, then the wife suddenly turning up also being a nod to Adam & Eve?

Yeah the whole thing was a bit religious.
Poet= God
Mother = Mother Nature
Man & Wife = Adam & Eve
The sons = Kane and Abel

dirtychinchilla · 19 Jan 2018 at 08:32

I hated this film.

I thought it was going to turn into a superb psychological thriller, so I thought the ending was a whole load of rubbish. Deeply unsatisfactory.[/spolier]