Motorbikes to be fitted with speed limiters?

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BBC News said:
MPs have urged the government to carry out a study into the possibility of fitting speed limiters to motorbikes.

The House of Commons Transport Committee said accident rates are far too high and radical action is needed.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6505423.stm


I'm interested to hear peoples thoughts on this.

Frankly, I can't see the point in it personally. I would imagine that most motorbike accidents occur below the national speed limit? If so, how would fitting a limiter help?
 
I agree, I can't see any point myself... Even if they were fitted, I'm sure you'd be able to remove them easy enough. People use bikes for trackdays aswell. :D

I rode around on a 50cc for a year, and I felt being restricted to 30mph was more dangerous as I was always having trying to squeeze past on the A road. Once I got a 125, I could keep up with the traffic, and felt a lot safer. :cool:
 
aye does seem pointless as i cant see the majority of accidents being some speed freak on the m1 doing a 100+ (if anything chances are that is the more experienced and potentially safer rider at that speed...possibly, or it could just be some nutter)

im no motorcyclist but i imagine if you upset the balance of the bike enough through carelessness you will come off regardless of speed
 
It's about as pointless as Plymouth City Councils measures to stop boy racers doing 90-100mph along a particular road in Plymouth and, a few times a year, having huge crashes.

Drop the speed limit from 50mph to 40mph. Yup, 'cos that'll make em think twice :rolleyes:
 
That's stupid, the majority of accidents I would have thought are caused by people not looking and pulling out on a bike, not by sheer top speed or acceleration. A friend of mine came off his bike twice during uni in London, both at under 30 mph.
 
tom_nieto said:
That's stupid, the majority of accidents I would have thought are caused by people not looking and pulling out on a bike, not by sheer top speed or acceleration. A friend of mine came off his bike twice during uni in London, both at under 30 mph.
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Quoted for truth, most people will agree bikers constantly doing 100+ dangerously will at some point have a near miss or worse, but the average accident is at low speed or the usual damn unaware car drivers.

And even if they did, how many bikers do you think would actually have it installed lol.

IMO aslong as they keep letting cars like bugattis and the like into this country nothing will happen about bikes

** Just read the whole article now lol, now were getting flak because of chavs on mini-motos, as if it wasnt enough that figures were based with scooters aswell :rolleyes: damn idiots have a screw loose and need to ride all the types of 2 wheeled vehicles before making idiot decisions
 
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Why single out bikes? If they're going to introduce speed limiters, do it across the board, cap all new vehicles at 80mph.

Would be a nightmare to enforce though, aftermarket chipping firms would have a field day.
 
Von Luck said:
Why single out bikes? If they're going to introduce speed limiters, do it across the board, cap all new vehicles at 80mph.

Would be a nightmare to enforce though, aftermarket chipping firms would have a field day.
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Theyre not to be honest. Its widely thought that bikes will be used as a pilot, and if sucessful (their definition) it will be used on cars aswell.

Bike statistcis are a joke - firstly, as mentioned above, scooters and minimotos are lumped in with proper bikers, and secondly, whilst bike accidents have gone up as an absolute figure, the number of bikers on the road has gone up a much larger proportion, so accidents per rider have actually reduced.

A much better way to reduce accidents would be to scrap the current CBT system and replace it with just a single, proper test, so kids cant go on the road with basically no training, and then put more money into the excellent, Police run Bike Safe courses.
 
Sagalout said:
Theyre not to be honest. Its widely thought that bikes will be used as a pilot, and if sucessful (their definition) it will be used on cars aswell.

Bike statistcis are a joke - firstly, as mentioned above, scooters and minimotos are lumped in with proper bikers, and secondly, whilst bike accidents have gone up as an absolute figure, the number of bikers on the road has gone up a much larger proportion, so accidents per rider have actually reduced.

A much better way to reduce accidents would be to scrap the current CBT system and replace it with just a single, proper test, so kids cant go on the road with basically no training, and then put more money into the excellent, Police run Bike Safe courses.
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That's exactly the way it should be done. Unfortunately it costs more money than just forcing some stupid legislation through parliamtent and slapping speed limiters on bikes. That means it'll never be done, because the government are always after the cheapest way of "being seen to be doing something about the problem" rather than actually wanting to solve it properly.
 
pinkaardvark said:
Yep, proper training and legislation to force riders to wear the proper gear would be fine. Though I could live with it if they put an upper restriction on arond the 170mph level :)
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Hehe im not sure what the current top speed limiter is for europe (i think its just for europe :confused: ) is about 190mph or is it 200mph not actually sure but before the busas and zx1400's are allowed in they have to be capped from stock
 
Sagalout said:
Theres no fixed limit, just a 'gentlemans' agreement between the big Japanese manufacturers to electronically limit the bikes to 186mph.
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Yeah there was an outcry in euro land when the busa came in, bear in mind they think in kmh so I think 300kmh was the magic number.
 
Numpties TBH.

I notice that they slipped in a "enviromental" bit in there too. Yes, because my motorbike produces way more CO2 than an old Volvo which is sat in traffic for 2 hours a day :rolleyes:
Its new and conforms to the new Euro III emissions standard so is producing restricted levels of exhaust rubbish.
Maybe I should just drive my car into work and kill a few more bunnies then (when I actually buy it) ?

Half the problem is the old speeding related accidents statistics which have been proven to be a load of tosh, but they seem to just keep saying speed kills. A car driver pulls out in front of a motorcyclist and thats bundled in with the speed deaths/accidents because the driver didn't consider the distance of the motorcycle. I think also JC said on Top Gear about some woman falling from a bridge was also bundled in as a speeding related injury?

Speed is not the issue, its poor driving/riding standards that are the issue.

They want to come and stick something on my bike then they will find it taken back off and put in the bin. This government has got to go, they have consistently targetted the motorists wallet since they came into power and it appears they are now switching that to the motorcyclists too.
Clueless bloody morons. How about actually getting some of the doley scroungers off their backsides which would be a much more effective use of their power?
 
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Bobbler said:
Numpties TBH.

I notice that they slipped in a "enviromental" bit in there too. Yes, because my motorbike produces way more CO2 than an old Volvo which is sat in traffic for 2 hours a day :rolleyes:
Its new and conforms to the new Euro III emissions standard so is producing restricted levels of exhaust rubbish.
Maybe I should just drive my car into work and kill a few more bunnies then (when I actually buy it) ?
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lool yea that environmental bit almost made me spit my tea, so a bike going steady through traffic at 30-40mph is using making more CO2 than a car sitting there with the engine on and revving every 2 mins to move 10 meters and stopping again i mean come on lol, do they really think that my 650cc engine and the size of it compared to a cars makes more :confused: :confused: :confused:
 
I have a sneaky suspicion that this is soley because they dont get enough money out of motorcyclists into the coffers and they feel we are an untapped market so to speak. Afterall we pay less road tax, use less fuel, pay reduced tolls etc.
 
The problem with speed limiters on bikes is balance. When you hit a speed limiter, the sudden cut in acceleration produces a jolt. Imagine what would happen to a biker, accelerating around a bend, leant over slightly if the bike suddenly jolted as it hit the limiter. The biker would be on the floor.
 
What is the matter with politicians? All they seem to care about is changing society to fit their own agenda. That and their jobs of course.

Motorbikes can be risky to ride, whether you go fast or slow. This is mainly because the average car driver only seems to see road users of Smart Car size and above. Car driver education is the key to reducing bike deaths not more state control.
 
Spie said:
What is the matter with politicians? All they seem to care about is changing society to fit their own agenda. That and their jobs of course.

Motorbikes can be risky to ride, whether you go fast or slow. This is mainly because the average car driver only seems to see road users of Smart Car size and above. Car driver education is the key to reducing bike deaths not more state control.
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i have seen a few bike riders who could with a bit more education :)
 
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