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Motorbikes With Centre Exhausts

Discussion in 'Biker's Cafe' started by MADMAN69UK, Nov 23, 2009.

  1. MADMAN69UK

    Hitman

    Joined: Sep 26, 2005

    Posts: 875

    Location: Midlands

    Hi all :)

    I recently aquired my full motorcycle license so have been looking around for a bike to replace my CBF125.

    I'm quite liking the centre exhaust design feature that some models have. Specifically the Kawasaki ER-6f and Honda CB600RR.

    The problem is I don't like the sports riding position of the CB600RR, so that isn't really an option.

    I really like the look of the ER-6f, and it's upright riding position, but I'm told that the bike can vibrate and maybe it's the easiest to handle? Any advice or information on this bike from owners would be appreciated ;)

    I'm also aware of the Honda Hornet, but I'm not liking the design of that one much to be honest.

    I wondered if anyone could recommend any other centre exhaust bikes with an upright riding position? With a sporty look, like with the ER-6f.

    Cheers :rolleyes:
     
  2. Will Gill

    Don

    Joined: Oct 18, 2002

    Posts: 55,155

    Location: Cornwall

    triumph 675

    my mate has one and its stunning
     
  3. kippermitten

    Wise Guy

    Joined: Dec 27, 2002

    Posts: 1,704

    Location: In ** bottom drawer...

    The ER-6F is a great first bike, as to vibration, never felt that or heard of people mentioning it as an issue. They are dead simple to ride, possibly a tad un-engaging but with ~70bhp plenty quick enough to enjoy for some time.
    I have a CBR600F - 1997 vintage, its about 2 inchs higher at the bars than the current RR's and is rideable all day with no issues - Im only 5'6" though!
    What are you basing your choices on?
    basically you need to go on a bunch of test rides - go to a big dealer of decent used sales shop and go on a few then make a more informed choice?
     
  4. MADMAN69UK

    Hitman

    Joined: Sep 26, 2005

    Posts: 875

    Location: Midlands

    That is a great looking bike :)

    I wouldn't get on with that riding position though :(
     
  5. bloodiedathame

    Sgarrista

    Joined: May 11, 2007

    Posts: 7,721

    Location: Surrey

    It is mostly sportsbikes that have underseat exhausts.

    You limit your choice of bikes by looking for this, especially as you don't get on with a sporty riding position.

    Typical first big bike choices: Suzuki SV650, Kwak ER6, Honda Hornet.
     
  6. MADMAN69UK

    Hitman

    Joined: Sep 26, 2005

    Posts: 875

    Location: Midlands

    I'm only 5' 5" myself :eek: They say good things come in small packages ;)

    I'm basing my choices at the moment on firstly seat height. I was able to sit on the ER-6f half footed without the bike needing any adjustment. And looks, I like the design of the ER-6f, and the riding position. I'm a pretty inexperienced rider so haven't considered the bike's riding difficulty as much as I probably should...

    If you're saying that you don't know of any vibration issues with the ER-6f maybe the guy who mentioned it hadn't aligned his wheels correctly or something :)

    I'm just looking for something well designed, comfortable, and good for nipping in and out of traffic.

    I sat on a 2009 CBF600 and it was just too high, so would need adjusting for me. It's a plainer looking bike that one I think. Plus the insurance is higher on one of those than for the ER-6f for some reason...

    As you said, it might be best for me to find a used bike dealer and take a few test rides.
     
  7. Fireskull

    Sgarrista

    Joined: Oct 31, 2006

    Posts: 9,657

    Location: Eastleigh / Winchester

    ER-6f is a good little bike, cant say I noticed any vibration problems on my brothers bike though, brakes were good, handling felt good.
    And it sounds awesome with a nice exhaust ;)
     
  8. MADMAN69UK

    Hitman

    Joined: Sep 26, 2005

    Posts: 875

    Location: Midlands

    Thanks for the info. I think I'm sold on the ER-6f at the moment :)

    Unless anyone else can throw more bikes with centre mounted exhausts into the pot.
     
  9. isset

    Gangster

    Joined: May 16, 2003

    Posts: 444

    Location: Surrey

    No (standard) ER6F has a 'centre' mounted exhaust :confused: Unless your definition of centre doesn't equal mine, which is more commonly known as an under-seat exhaust...?

    ER6F(&N) = under-slung (kinda) exhaust
    CBR600RR = centre/under-seat exhaust

    You're not confusing a Kawa ER6F with a Yamaha FZ6 are you? That has a centre exhaust.
     
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  10. MADMAN69UK

    Hitman

    Joined: Sep 26, 2005

    Posts: 875

    Location: Midlands

    It's central under the chasis, in front of the rear wheel:

    [​IMG]
     
  11. isset

    Gangster

    Joined: May 16, 2003

    Posts: 444

    Location: Surrey

    Ok. The confusing part was you mentioning a CBR6RR which has a centre exhaust, totally different to the ER6 ;)

    The only other bike that I can think of that has a 'centre' (your definition ;)) exhaust would be the Yamaha XJ6 Diversion - http://www.yamaha-motor.co.uk/products/motorcycles/xj_series/xj6-abs.jsp
    Also take a look at the KTM 690 Duke III which has its exhaust under the engine and a very friendly riding position - http://www.ktm690duke.com/

    If you want under-seat exhausts you have got a lot more choice ;)


    Edit - your location is listed as Midlands, so why not get yourself to the NEC Bike show if you're not already going?
     
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  12. Kodiak

    Wise Guy

    Joined: Oct 17, 2002

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    Location: Hemel Hempstead

    Well my Dad recommends the FZ6. Hes over 60 and uses it to commute into London every day. Its a more relaxed riding positions that lends itself more towards commuting/touring than the more wrist heavy sports bikes.
    Its worth getting yourself to a showroom and sitting on a few. See what your after.
     
  13. Bennie-Mac

    Capodecina

    Joined: Sep 10, 2008

    Posts: 11,975

    Location: Bangor, Northern Ireland

    Triumph Street Triple? Has dual under seat exhausts and same basic engine as the 675
     
  14. MADMAN69UK

    Hitman

    Joined: Sep 26, 2005

    Posts: 875

    Location: Midlands

    I guess you'd say the CB600RR had an under seat exhaust:

    [​IMG]

    But I wanted to include the under chasis one too.

    I'm unsure of the terminology that would encompass both designs :)

    Thanks for the links, I'll have a looksee now :)
     
  15. MADMAN69UK

    Hitman

    Joined: Sep 26, 2005

    Posts: 875

    Location: Midlands

    Yeah I'm just as happy with under-seat exhausts. So anything with a sporty look like the ER-6f, and faired, with under-seat exhaust would be fine :)

    Oh and relatively low for my tiny frame :)
     
  16. The_Abyss

    Capodecina

    Joined: May 15, 2007

    Posts: 12,805

    Location: Ipswich / Bodham

    I got the new shape ER-6F in September, a few days after passing by full licence.

    [​IMG]

    It is very simple and comfortable to ride, and the power at only 74 bhp is very manageable for a first bike. It has a lot of low down power, but only really comes to life above 6k rpm, up to 11k rpm in lower gears. The longest ride I've had unbroken was 2 hours, and I didn't experience any cramp or soreness. I'm 6'1".

    Vibration did I hear plague the earlier model, but no such problems on this. One of the fasteners on the fairing came loose on it (fixed at first 600 mile service) and that caused some vibration at around 7k rpm, but once tightened it is fine. Speaking of the fairing, it works ok, but at my height you're going to get some blast from the wind once you get near to 100 mph. If you're a couple of inches or more shorter, you'll be fine.

    I use mine mainly for commuting, although at this time of year it is just weekends only. It is very easy to drive through town stopping and starting - you can keep it in 2nd or 3rd and idle along if you don't want progress and instead simply just drive.

    You WILL want something faster after a while though, but if you're commuting, it appears to be a very easy bike.
     
  17. Bug One

    Capodecina

    Joined: Oct 18, 2002

    Posts: 10,193

    Location: Sandwich, Kent

    Is a bike being easy to ride now a bad thing?

    I had a versys, which is a variant of the er6. Was a nicely designed, really good value bike. It had very neutral weight distribution and was very comfortable to ride.

    I can understand the vibration comments. You could feel it was a twin instead of a 4. But it was ony at low revs and wasn't an issue.
     
  18. Felix

    Mobster

    Joined: Jan 25, 2003

    Posts: 2,702

    Out of interest, how did you find the CBF125?

    Some great looking bikes in the posts above!
     
  19. MADMAN69UK

    Hitman

    Joined: Sep 26, 2005

    Posts: 875

    Location: Midlands

    Great bike. Looks nice, it's comfortable, and easy to handle :)

    I did my CBT on one, then bought my own the following week :)

    From there I did all my tests on it (CBT Plus, Mod 1, Mod 2 etc).

    I accidently hit 80mph on it while slipstreaming a lorry down the A38 heading for my Mod 1 test :eek:
    The wind was with me :D

    I'm just looking for something with more poke now. So I can zip past cars when needed.
    I'm not really concerned with top speed. It's quick bursts of stable acceleration I'm after :)
     
  20. Felix

    Mobster

    Joined: Jan 25, 2003

    Posts: 2,702

    Great, I am looking at getting one in the spring. Everyone says I will quickly become bored of it but I want to start on something small and gain some experience first.