Soldato
I think that same study also showed that the number of deaths increased!
Motoring: Modern Britain
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I think that same study also showed that the number of deaths increased!
Soldato
But for the Gethin example the speed limit was 50mph and a cone at 50mph stop point illustrated the ignorance of 'only 8mph over' actually being a big difference.
Why would you brake sooner when going faster? Does the size of your crystal ball grow proportinally with its speed?
Its a TV program, I cant think of a better example for showing Joe Bloggs watching.
Rigged? Mr LOL must live here:
Soldato
But for the Gethin example the speed limit was 50mph and a cone at 50mph stop point illustrated the ignorance of 'only 8mph over' actually being a big difference.
Why would you brake sooner when going faster? Does the size of your crystal ball grow proportinally with its speed?
This^^
I didn't bother replying because I didn't understand his point even when he attempted to explain it, so i assumed he didn't really have a point.
Soldato
I think the op has hit the nail on the head about today's motoring unfortunately.
I grew up in Surrey and learned to drive there and had all my "fun" motoring years there. I moved from there about 14 years ago and now live in Sussex.
I returned back to surrey (epsom where I use to live) and couldn't believe how much motoring had changed. The nippy little A-roads are now dotted with camera's and traffic control measures. A journey that would have taken me 5 minutes back then took me close to twenty because of traffic.
Parking is another nightmare as it takes you ages to find a space and costs an arm and a leg.
Put on top of that the cost of fuel and it certainly has taken the fun out of it. Driving for me nowadays is a method of transport to get from A to B although in my case much of it is down to financial constraints.
I grew up in Surrey and learned to drive there and had all my "fun" motoring years there. I moved from there about 14 years ago and now live in Sussex.
I returned back to surrey (epsom where I use to live) and couldn't believe how much motoring had changed. The nippy little A-roads are now dotted with camera's and traffic control measures. A journey that would have taken me 5 minutes back then took me close to twenty because of traffic.
Parking is another nightmare as it takes you ages to find a space and costs an arm and a leg.
Put on top of that the cost of fuel and it certainly has taken the fun out of it. Driving for me nowadays is a method of transport to get from A to B although in my case much of it is down to financial constraints.
Don
OP is dead right. I returned to my native North Devon a few weeks back and it just wasn't how it used to be. 30mph limits everywhere, speed cameras, traffic calming measures and speed bumps.
Even die hard V8 lovers like myself have made the switch to derv.
As a side note, I had my insurance renewal through today. £1300 per year, up from £550 last year. 35, clean licence, rural post code, max NCB, no changes in circumstances. Car is different but that £550 is based on my premium actually going DOWN by a few quid when I swapped from my 540i to the 730d.
Even die hard V8 lovers like myself have made the switch to derv.
As a side note, I had my insurance renewal through today. £1300 per year, up from £550 last year. 35, clean licence, rural post code, max NCB, no changes in circumstances. Car is different but that £550 is based on my premium actually going DOWN by a few quid when I swapped from my 540i to the 730d.
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Means nothing, they always try it on with renewals.
Soldato
Bah, indeed, traffic calming is evil
! Completely OTT in places. Often has the opposite effect on me too, I get annoyed by a speedbump and proceed to floor it after it, rather than driving in a calm constant matter if the speedbump wasn't there.
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Caporegime
But for the Gethin example the speed limit was 50mph and a cone at 50mph stop point illustrated the ignorance of 'only 8mph over' actually being a big difference.
Why would you brake sooner when going faster? Does the size of your crystal ball grow proportinally with its speed?
Its a TV program, I cant think of a better example for showing Joe Bloggs watching.
the opposite applys as well - accidents don't always pop out exactly on the threshold of where you can stop safely in 50mph.
Pedestrians can walk out at such short notice that even at 30mph you wouldn't stop in time for example.
Equally a pedestrian might walk out much much earlier, leaving you time to stop at 50mph or 58mph.
Seriously what?
The point of the 'rigged' test was to show that sometimes -but not every time- speed is the difference between hitting something and not.
I am NO fan of the speed kills rubbish but I am simply astounded how he isn't getting the point that was being made. He genuinelly seems to be suggesting that you can just apply the brakes sooner to counter the effect of stopping distance increases?
Caporegime
It does make that point rather well, but at the expense of portraying that we must always stick to the speed limit and never exceed it by even 1mph on the pain of instant collision if anything happens, which i disagree with.
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Not at all, i'm making the point that you do the speed most appropriate for the conditions. Doing 30mph through a school zone during term time won't help you, because if a child doesnt look and steps out in front of you, at the last minute, you won't stop in time even doing 30mph.
Equally the reverse is true also, that doing 70mph on nice empty 60 NSL road, you could possibly end up with more notice of an impending problem and have plenty of time to brake in time, despite doing 8mph or whatever over the limit - something the test implies WILL happen because you're doing 8mph more than you're supposed to.
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