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Mad_Jay said:
V8s with synthetic fuel will do. However I imagine they will end up agreeing with V8s with some sort of hybrid element.

Is MBS due election or under scrutiny for some reason? He normally wheels out the V8 comments when that happens and wants some fan favour.
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Nah he was unopposed last year and "won" another term.

I can't see pure V8's sitting well with some of the manufacturers so I imagine as you say hybrid will remain; Audi for one are incredibly unlikely to want to revert to pure fully combustion engines.
 
chrismscotland said:
Nah he was unopposed last year and "won" another term.

I can't see pure V8's sitting well with some of the manufacturers so I imagine as you say hybrid will remain; Audi for one are incredibly unlikely to want to revert to pure fully combustion engines.
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Feel for Cadillac too, using Ferrari engines for a few years whilst they develop their own hybrid v6 system which GM would be online for 2029.

Just to use it for a year or 2, then bin it.

I wouldn't bother, scrap the GM hybrid now and just rent the ferrari engines for a few more years if this gets pushed through.
 
Stumble Bum said:
www.reuters.com

F1 will have V8 engines by 2031, possibly 2030, says FIA president

Formula One will switch from its current V6 hybrid engines to louder and simpler V8s by 2031, and possibly even 2030, according to the head of the sport's governing body.
www.reuters.com www.reuters.com

Looks like we're switching back to V8 engines. Hopefully by 2030 if a vote goes through, if not then by 2031. Simpler engines and hopefully loud and noisy again.
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Not a chance.

Even if the FIA do somehow mandate it, it's a pointless ruling if you have no manufacturers producing engines for that formula
 
Be a nice little earner for someone like Ford or BMW.

Ford/Cosworth could just update their last V8 design with modern materials/technologies to run on this year’s synthetic fuel.
 
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Mad_Jay said:
Feel for Cadillac too, using Ferrari engines for a few years whilst they develop their own hybrid v6 system which GM would be online for 2029.

Just to use it for a year or 2, then bin it.

I wouldn't bother, scrap the GM hybrid now and just rent the ferrari engines for a few more years if this gets pushed through.
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I'm at brands hatch this weekend watching GT world series. Amazing.

Slowly giving up on f1
 
Stumble Bum said:
www.reuters.com

F1 will have V8 engines by 2031, possibly 2030, says FIA president

Formula One will switch from its current V6 hybrid engines to louder and simpler V8s by 2031, and possibly even 2030, according to the head of the sport's governing body.
www.reuters.com www.reuters.com

Looks like we're switching back to V8 engines. Hopefully by 2030 if a vote goes through, if not then by 2031. Simpler engines and hopefully loud and noisy again.
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Gigantic 'who cares'. The cars will still be too long, and too heavy.
 
If we're going back to a V8, let's have a small one. We've gone from 2.4l V8 to a 1.6l V6. Let's go up to a 2l V8. 18k rpm limit

Keep hybrid system around the same level, add in front axle regen. Might top 1200bhp total. Fuel would still be the limiting factor.

Just a couple of issues. V8 is longer than the V6. It'll make the cars longer again, which sucks. Also, the torque they've got used to with the V6 turbo will be gone.
 
Flibster said:
Let's go up to a 2l V8. 18k rpm limit
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With Liberty involved and the rise in the American audience you'll be lucky if it's not a 7.2 litre V8 with 190hp and a 4500rpm redline :cry:

Flibster said:
add in front axle regen
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The problem there is that the electrical control systems for it are a backdoor in to allowing traction control and ABS.
 
I was thinking about this a bit ago, and I realise this would never happen, but I reckon it would be good/interesting to give the manufacturers the option and allow different configurations...

Sure, you'd have to have some ground rules/frameworks but most of them are already in place with these rules, things like:
  • Total fuel allowance
  • Fuel flow limits
  • Fully sustainable fuels
  • Total power 'target' with upgrade/changes allowed to allow others to catch up/standardise (e.g. ADUO)

Add in some 'Balance of Performance' options at stages throughout the season.

Then let the manufacturers do whatever they want to do... Give them say 6 months to put forward a proposed layout for approval and then set the year for the new regs to start.

This way if Audi want to do a v6 turbo with front axle regen/power then fine. If Ferrari want to do a fully NA v8 or v12 great. If Honda want to chuck a boosted K24 in there for the lols why not.

It'd be chaos, it'd be great :p
 
It's a thought I've had before especially given the push to manufacturers to join and develop new technologies...oh but it has to be a 1.6l 90 degree V6 etc.etc. I think the 2 biggest problem is customer teams as they would have a much harder time switching supplier. I think we'd probably see something similar to aero regs, massive upfront costs then increased high costs as the teams converge on the same design.
 
Mesai said:
Bet teams are excited that they get to needlessly spend millions on changing the engine. At least gives Ferrari a chance to change the turbo size if needed since the FIA gutted their advantage.
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The are developing the current engines, not changing them for any other.
 
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