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My sons Christmas present arrived this morning - Marin Quake DH bike. [As rode by Matt Jones at Red Bull Hardline in Wales & Australia , and Janelle Soukup at Red Bull Rampage]
It's a beast !

The spec is decent - RockShox Boxxer fork & Vivid Ultimate coil shock, Maven brakes and a slick looking purple to black paint fade with metallic fleck


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My sons Christmas present arrived this morning - Marin Quake DH bike. [As rode by Matt Jones at Red Bull Hardline in Wales & Australia , and Janelle Soukup at Red Bull Rampage]
It's a beast !

The spec is decent - RockShox Boxxer fork & Vivid Ultimate coil shock, Maven brakes and a slick looking purpure to black paint fade with metallic fleck


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That paint job is gorgeous!
 
My sons Christmas present arrived this morning - Marin Quake DH bike. [As rode by Matt Jones at Red Bull Hardline in Wales & Australia , and Janelle Soukup at Red Bull Rampage]
It's a beast !

The spec is decent - RockShox Boxxer fork & Vivid Ultimate coil shock, Maven brakes and a slick looking purple to black paint fade with metallic fleck


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Damn that’s smart! Online pics don’t do it justice, it looks epic!
 
Quick question, does anyone know the deal with Vitus warranty now?

My 4 year old frame has cracked where the seat post goes in (the weld has cracked and it's spread). The frame had a 5 year warranty when bought but chainreaction/wiggle were bought out and now Vitus page says 2 year warranty, so am I stuffed? Honestly my luck, buy from a well established shop with a long warranty and then they go bust.

Thanks. Also if I'm stuffed, does anyone actually sell frames, looking around it's slim pickings. Don't really want to buy a whole new bike, everything else is good.
 
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Not sure on the warranty aspect as I was under the impression Vitus went bust Best option would be to ring. Best option would be to contact CRC or Vitus directly to see what they say.

Most manufacturers sell frame only options.
 
AFAIK when CRC/Wiggle went bust, Evans only bought the IP, so essentially Vitus (and Nukeproof) are completely new companies with no liability for anything sold during the original CRC era.
If you paid for any of the bike on credit card/finance, then you might be able to claim something that way.

Generally frame only options aren't that great value, as they're typically the top spec frame option, and those buying them will likely know exactly what build they want, so are willing to pay a premium over buying a full build then paying to swap parts.
 
AFAIK when CRC/Wiggle went bust, Evans only bought the IP, so essentially Vitus (and Nukeproof) are completely new companies with no liability for anything sold during the original CRC era.
If you paid for any of the bike on credit card/finance, then you might be able to claim something that way.

Generally frame only options aren't that great value, as they're typically the top spec frame option, and those buying them will likely know exactly what build they want, so are willing to pay a premium over buying a full build then paying to swap parts.
Yeah, I thought as much, asked on reddit as well and got a similar response, although they did say you may as well give them a poke, they might honor it out of goodwill for the brand or whatever. I doubt it, the contact us on crc doesn't even work, but I mean the worst you will get is a template "old warranties not valid" or similar, I doubt I'll be the first to ask, most people aren't online and keeping up so crc is just crc. Even if it was old crc, think it would still be new frame or bike time anyway, found a post from years back, where someone had a crack in the same area, on a bike about the same age (mine is 4 years 4 months old) and they got given warranty credit to put towards a new frame.

Frames yeah, looking around a lot are like £600 or 29" only, pointless as you can get decent value full bikes from one of halfords in house brands and get all new for not much more, those have lifetime warranty on frame as well (halfords will probably go bust if I order), it just seems such a waste, everything else is fine, you would think there would be some cheaper like £300 or so frames. People can't just be throwing away bikes and buying new if they have a crash or frame issue outside of warranty can they.

Honestly can't believe it's done it to me, at christmas as well. My brother had an orange crush frame crack in the same spot (right above the seat tube/toptube weld), is that a weak spot on bikes as it seems strange for two different bikes to fail same way. There's always been plenty of seatpost in there, there's around 18cm below the weld, so can't be that. I ride a decent amount, but none of it is super hard (local forest), worked it out that's done around 6700miles, is that a lot for an alloy frame? It's definitely cracked within the last 3 months, I didn't notice it while riding, only noticed when cleaning, but it wasn't there when I did a full clean after this summers riding (around september). Before that I had a steel frame, that did about 10000 miles over the years, including a crash where it went bouncing down a hill and was no worse for wear.

Frame or bike is also a load of stress as well, no matter what I always fall between large/medium. When I measured for the vitus I was 177.4Cm height, 84cm bike inside leg (so book, in my case spirit level shoved up there to measure, just to be clear) and 180.5cm arm span. Apparently got some gorilla arms going on here, even with sweatshirts I get shafted, large is better body fit, but arms are too short, xl is a big baggy, but the arms don't ride up.

That pretty without fails put me on medium for height, but large for legs, and no one says for armspan. So now that's another load of stress, which size do I go, have I got it right and even if it's all good, it's still going to feel alien. The vitus was like an old comfy chair after 1000s of miles.

Honestly still fuming at it, a crash is one thing at least I could be annoyed at myself, but this I did nothing, it's just bent me over :mad:
 
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The frame only market is only a fraction of the market, so options are pretty limited.

Modern frame sizing can be a bit odd.
It's worth speaking to someone who actually knows about what you're looking to buy, and try a test ride where possible.
I know a few people who've dropped a frame size over recent years, and a couple retailers who like a good rant about people who ignore their advice, and end up with bikes that don't fit them well.
 
Just chatted with a mate who worked for a shop that sold quite a few Vitus/Nukeproofs, and all warranties on pre-bankruptcy frames are worthless.
 
Yeah, I thought as much, asked on reddit as well and got a similar response, although they did say you may as well give them a poke, they might honor it out of goodwill for the brand or whatever. I doubt it, the contact us on crc doesn't even work, but I mean the worst you will get is a template "old warranties not valid" or similar, I doubt I'll be the first to ask, most people aren't online and keeping up so crc is just crc. Even if it was old crc, think it would still be new frame or bike time anyway, found a post from years back, where someone had a crack in the same area, on a bike about the same age (mine is 4 years 4 months old) and they got given warranty credit to put towards a new frame.

Frames yeah, looking around a lot are like £600 or 29" only, pointless as you can get decent value full bikes from one of halfords in house brands and get all new for not much more, those have lifetime warranty on frame as well (halfords will probably go bust if I order), it just seems such a waste, everything else is fine, you would think there would be some cheaper like £300 or so frames. People can't just be throwing away bikes and buying new if they have a crash or frame issue outside of warranty can they.

Honestly can't believe it's done it to me, at christmas as well. My brother had an orange crush frame crack in the same spot (right above the seat tube/toptube weld), is that a weak spot on bikes as it seems strange for two different bikes to fail same way. There's always been plenty of seatpost in there, there's around 18cm below the weld, so can't be that. I ride a decent amount, but none of it is super hard (local forest), worked it out that's done around 6700miles, is that a lot for an alloy frame? It's definitely cracked within the last 3 months, I didn't notice it while riding, only noticed when cleaning, but it wasn't there when I did a full clean after this summers riding (around september). Before that I had a steel frame, that did about 10000 miles over the years, including a crash where it went bouncing down a hill and was no worse for wear.

Frame or bike is also a load of stress as well, no matter what I always fall between large/medium. When I measured for the vitus I was 177.4Cm height, 84cm bike inside leg (so book, in my case spirit level shoved up there to measure, just to be clear) and 180.5cm arm span. Apparently got some gorilla arms going on here, even with sweatshirts I get shafted, large is better body fit, but arms are too short, xl is a big baggy, but the arms don't ride up.

That pretty without fails put me on medium for height, but large for legs, and no one says for armspan. So now that's another load of stress, which size do I go, have I got it right and even if it's all good, it's still going to feel alien. The vitus was like an old comfy chair after 1000s of miles.

Honestly still fuming at it, a crash is one thing at least I could be annoyed at myself, but this I did nothing, it's just bent me over :mad:

Use geocompare from your old vitus to compare to reach sizes for the next bike.

Assume the crack can't be welded up?
 
Quick question, does anyone know the deal with Vitus warranty now?

My 4 year old frame has cracked where the seat post goes in (the weld has cracked and it's spread). The frame had a 5 year warranty when bought but chainreaction/wiggle were bought out and now Vitus page says 2 year warranty, so am I stuffed? Honestly my luck, buy from a well established shop with a long warranty and then they go bust.

Thanks. Also if I'm stuffed, does anyone actually sell frames, looking around it's slim pickings. Don't really want to buy a whole new bike, everything else is good.
What frame do you have?
 
The frame only market is only a fraction of the market, so options are pretty limited.

Modern frame sizing can be a bit odd.
It's worth speaking to someone who actually knows about what you're looking to buy, and try a test ride where possible.
I know a few people who've dropped a frame size over recent years, and a couple retailers who like a good rant about people who ignore their advice, and end up with bikes that don't fit them well.
I get it's limited, but it just seems such a waste. Suppose it's no different to anything else these days, oh battery is gone, too bad, we've glued it in and you have to destroy the device to get it out :p

Oh yeah, will definitely be picking peoples brains/test ride if possible, it's just hassle I could have done without :(. I know what I have feels really good, but I don't really understand how the various bits of geometry effect stuff, so will definitely be picking peoples brain.

Just chatted with a mate who worked for a shop that sold quite a few Vitus/Nukeproofs, and all warranties on pre-bankruptcy frames are worthless.

Thought so, I thought the warranty was toast when they went under, but just thought I'd ask. I assume they had a few people try to claim or kick off about it? I suppose as a positive, at least it's had most of it's warranty, must be gutting to have bought one, had it go after a year and be told tough luck. New Vitus don't seem to have much faith in their frames either, 2 year warranty now.
Use geocompare from your old vitus to compare to reach sizes for the next bike.

Assume the crack can't be welded up?

Reach is 450 on the large vitus, with a 50mm stem (only mention the stem because I know older bikes at least tended to have shorter frames with longer stem & I see 30mm stems now, so dunno if they are going shorter).

Is reach all that matters, like the vitus has a 640mm effective top tube and is comfy sitting as well as standing, do things like that matter? I'll be picking peoples/shops brains before doing anything anyone and test ride if it's a full bike if I can.

It's just a tiny tiny crack, I didn't even notice it when riding, even really pulling back on the seatpost it doesn't open or anything, so I assume it could, but it's aluminium, I was under the impression it's hard to do properly and just not economical if it's not a super high end/rare frame, but I'm open to it.

What frame do you have?

Cracks can be welded, but frame would need heat treatment to be fully repaired. Steel and carbon are more easily repairable than aluminium, unfortunately.

2021 Vitus sentier 27.

I'm open to having it repaired, like I said it's like a comfy chair now I've been riding it and only a small crack, but I don't know anywhere that can do it properly and I doubt it's economical either, if I'm wrong, I'm open to it.

Honestly side eyeing alloy as a frame material, look after it, no crashes, at least 18cm of seatpost below the weld, that should be more than enough, starts cracking after 4 years. Brothers orange crush was the same, started to go in the same place after around a similar amount of riding and time. Feels cursed.
 
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2021 Vitus sentier 27.

I'm open to having it repaired, like I said it's like a comfy chair now I've been riding it and only a small crack, but I don't know anywhere that can do it properly and I doubt it's economical either, if I'm wrong, I'm open to it.

Honestly side eyeing alloy as a frame material, look after it, no crashes, at least 18cm of seatpost below the weld, that should be more than enough, starts cracking after 4 years. Brothers orange crush was the same, started to go in the same place after around a similar amount of riding and time. Feels cursed.
If you are looking for a large, it might be your lucky day... will send a DM.
 
Thought so, I thought the warranty was toast when they went under, but just thought I'd ask. I assume they had a few people try to claim or kick off about it? I suppose as a positive, at least it's had most of it's warranty, must be gutting to have bought one, had it go after a year and be told tough luck. New Vitus don't seem to have much faith in their frames either, 2 year warranty now.
Yeah, frames were originally 5-years until Wiggle/CRC went under, then came back as 2-year once Evans got the stock. Blame Ashley for that.
 
I get it's limited, but it just seems such a waste. Suppose it's no different to anything else these days, oh battery is gone, too bad, we've glued it in and you have to destroy the device to get it out :p

Oh yeah, will definitely be picking peoples brains/test ride if possible, it's just hassle I could have done without :(. I know what I have feels really good, but I don't really understand how the various bits of geometry effect stuff, so will definitely be picking peoples brain.



Thought so, I thought the warranty was toast when they went under, but just thought I'd ask. I assume they had a few people try to claim or kick off about it? I suppose as a positive, at least it's had most of it's warranty, must be gutting to have bought one, had it go after a year and be told tough luck. New Vitus don't seem to have much faith in their frames either, 2 year warranty now.


Reach is 450 on the large vitus, with a 50mm stem (only mention the stem because I know older bikes at least tended to have shorter frames with longer stem & I see 30mm stems now, so dunno if they are going shorter).

Is reach all that matters, like the vitus has a 640mm effective top tube and is comfy sitting as well as standing, do things like that matter? I'll be picking peoples/shops brains before doing anything anyone and test ride if it's a full bike if I can.

It's just a tiny tiny crack, I didn't even notice it when riding, even really pulling back on the seatpost it doesn't open or anything, so I assume it could, but it's aluminium, I was under the impression it's hard to do properly and just not economical if it's not a super high end/rare frame, but I'm open to it.





2021 Vitus sentier 27.

I'm open to having it repaired, like I said it's like a comfy chair now I've been riding it and only a small crack, but I don't know anywhere that can do it properly and I doubt it's economical either, if I'm wrong, I'm open to it.

Honestly side eyeing alloy as a frame material, look after it, no crashes, at least 18cm of seatpost below the weld, that should be more than enough, starts cracking after 4 years. Brothers orange crush was the same, started to go in the same place after around a similar amount of riding and time. Feels cursed.

Reach isn't the only factor, but probably 5he most. Use geocompare.com and it'll show you the frames overlapped. If you get a similar reach number youll probably be OK.
 
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