Mousepads.

Gilbert89 · 28 Jun 2025 at 10:11

I have noticed something a bit contradictory in a lot of reviews and Reddit threads (yeah, I know... Reddit). Control and Balanced pads are usually positively reviewed, while speed pads seem to be surrounded by negativity.

But then, glass pads which are in the ultra-speed/no friction category are raved about :confused:

Sega Mega Dave said:
Bought the Wallhack SP-004 glass pad. It's so smooth and feels really nice to use. Expensive but worth it.

I hate the re-brand from Sky Pad to Wallhack, why name it after a cheat it just doesn’t make sense… however, the mousepad is great and I have been really pleased with it.

I’m using the SY-001 with a GPX2.

TrojanWhore · 1 Jul 2025 at 20:25

Gilbert89 said:
I hate the re-brand from Sky Pad to Wallhack, why name it after a cheat it just doesn’t make sense…

I assume they're trying to imply it gives you an unfair advantage

GregI · 4 Jul 2025 at 09:41

Gilbert89 said:
I have noticed something a bit contradictory in a lot of reviews and Reddit threads (yeah, I know... Reddit). Control and Balanced pads are usually positively reviewed, while speed pads seem to be surrounded by negativity.

But then, glass pads which are in the ultra-speed/no friction category are raved about

It makes sense if you think about it. Less experienced players that get review units/frequent Reddit like control pads because it helps mask their bad mouse control ability.

The more experienced players/people who actually do research look at glass pads favourably because good mouse control suits glass well.

It's kind of like how all the mainstream sites if you type in "best gaming mouse" will spam that the 150 gram Logitech G502 is the best mouse to ever exist. Those are the same people stating how bad speed/glass pads are. The stock skates of Logitech probably doesn't help either.

fraps · 28 Jul 2025 at 14:39

Artisan seem to have updated their website. Looks a little cleaner and they’ve knocked off a couple quid from the shipping.

fraps · 28 Jul 2025 at 14:40

Does anyone have any experience with the Zero soft compared to an LGG Saturn pro? I was leaning towards the Saturn due to the supposed hair issue on the Zero, but now the Zeros slightly cheaper and it does seem more popular.

jamief · 6 Aug 2025 at 13:20

Are glass ones really that much better?

t2na · 6 Aug 2025 at 13:33

fraps said:
Does anyone have any experience with the Zero soft compared to an LGG Saturn pro? I was leaning towards the Saturn due to the supposed hair issue on the Zero, but now the Zeros slightly cheaper and it does seem more popular.

Hair issues aren't too bad on the newer Zeros, the old ones (as in ones from 2019/2020) were a bit of a pain. My current Zero is from last year and it's been fine with the hair issues compared to my one I used back in 2019 and 2020. That one felt like I had to keep one of those cat hair removal things on my desk!

fraps · 6 Aug 2025 at 14:41

t2na said:
Hair issues aren't too bad on the newer Zeros, the old ones (as in ones from 2019/2020) were a bit of a pain. My current Zero is from last year and it's been fine with the hair issues compared to my one I used back in 2019 and 2020. That one felt like I had to keep one of those cat hair removal things on my desk!

Haha sounds promising then. I’ve got two furry cats so if the hair issues were prominent I’d be swamped. One of their reps mentioned that they were looking for cheaper shipping options which is enticing. I think I’ll grab a zero soft when those shipping options come in.

t2na · 6 Aug 2025 at 15:21

fraps said:
Haha sounds promising then. I’ve got two furry cats so if the hair issues were prominent I’d be swamped. One of their reps mentioned that they were looking for cheaper shipping options which is enticing. I think I’ll grab a zero soft when those shipping options come in.

Shipping seems to have come down in the last 12 months, I tended to either buy 2 pads for myself or would go 50/50 with a mate and buy 2 at the same time as shipping was always a slightly easier pill to swallow when it was delivering 2 pads.

Zero soft is what I'm running at the moment (XXL in orange) and I'm liking it a lot, smoother glide than from my Hien soft and much less friction compared to my Hayate Otsu. I might try the Key83 next, seen some really good feedback on that!

fraps · 6 Aug 2025 at 15:46

t2na said:
Shipping seems to have come down in the last 12 months, I tended to either buy 2 pads for myself or would go 50/50 with a mate and buy 2 at the same time as shipping was always a slightly easier pill to swallow when it was delivering 2 pads.

Zero soft is what I'm running at the moment (XXL in orange) and I'm liking it a lot, smoother glide than from my Hien soft and much less friction compared to my Hayate Otsu. I might try the Key83 next, seen some really good feedback on that!

I’ve heard the Key83 is unique when it comes to cloth. If I get two I’ll end up with a Type 99 mid as well. That matcha green is nice and I’m fond of control pads.

fraps · 9 Aug 2025 at 17:30

Tenta X Jinsoku, very nice unboxing experience, shipped flat. Will have better feedback once I use the pad a bit more.

t2na · 2026-03-31T14:38:48+0100

Got a new Raiden Mid (XXL) from Artisan at the end of last week. I'd forgotten how insanely nice a fresh Raiden feels compared to a worn one. Worn Raiden's are still nice but more like a control pad - vs. the fresh ones for the first 8 months or so have this lovely speed to them.

I've found it always takes 2 or so weeks to wear in initially with the Raiden whereas the Zero is great from the moment you put it down. Still - Raiden Mid has become my absolute fave in the last 12 months!

Apparently this colour is 'coffee brown' but I'm not sure the designers at Artisan quite know what brown is...

fraps · 2026-03-31T22:54:52+0100

t2na said:
Got a new Raiden Mid (XXL) from Artisan at the end of last week. I'd forgotten how insanely nice a fresh Raiden feels compared to a worn one. Worn Raiden's are still nice but more like a control pad - vs. the fresh ones for the first 8 months or so have this lovely speed to them.

I've found it always takes 2 or so weeks to wear in initially with the Raiden whereas the Zero is great from the moment you put it down. Still - Raiden Mid has become my absolute fave in the last 12 months!

Apparently this colour is 'coffee brown' but I'm not sure the designers at Artisan quite know what brown is...

I’ve had the same on my desk since November. Ordered a zero at the same time that’s been mostly unused. The damn thing shaved my forearm and kept the hairs sticking up as a reminder. The Raiden mid is fantastic. Smoother, firm, speed focused pads seem to be what I lean towards. It has been a pricey journey to come to that conclusion.

t2na · 2026-04-01T08:11:50+0100

fraps said:
I’ve had the same on my desk since November. Ordered a zero at the same time that’s been mostly unused. The damn thing shaved my forearm and kept the hairs sticking up as a reminder. The Raiden mid is fantastic. Smoother, firm, speed focused pads seem to be what I lean towards. It has been a pricey journey to come to that conclusion.

Haha, completely agree that it's a pricey journey to work out what is best for you.

I feel like I go through phases with pads, I spent a good 2 years exclusively sticking to the Hien, then found myself using the Zero non-stop - but the last 12-18 months I've just enjoyed the Raiden so much. I only bought one at the time (as I was still enjoying the Zero) but as soon as I swapped to the Raiden Mid it just felt so much more 'natural' with how I prefer to play.

At least with Artisan you can buy 2 pads from them at the same time to save on shipping and know you're basically covered for 3 years!