Moving BT home hub to another room

[TDevlin]

Currently my setup is that my BT home hub sits in the hallway downstairs in my house and my laptop/ps3/xbox and everything else that connects to the internet is all in my bedroom upstairs and along a bit.

So I was thinking it would make more sense to have the router in the same room as all the equipment that needs it with the idea of increasing my connection speed.

The problem is though, that when connected to any phone socket other than the one it's usually connected to, I get no internet signal at all. I tried two other connection points and got nothing so moved it back to where it was to begin with, which must have upset something as my IP profile for my line was put down to 135Kbps but it seems to be picking up since this morning.

Am I missing something obvious or is there any particular reason I'm getting no internet connection in other rooms?

 

[InQ]

The other sockets are filtered for voice only?
Are the other sockets wired from the one in the hallway?
Does the one in the hallway have the ability to have the bottom half of the socket removed like this:- http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/socket.htm

 

[Deception]

Could use a homeplug and Access Point to extend the signal. Unless you just want to know how to move it.

 

[TDevlin]

Yeah, just want to know how to move it, assuming that can be done of course.

I did put filters on the other sockets although thinking about it, I may have missed one out. And I could be wrong but as far as I know all the other sockets are wired from the one in the hallway. Also it has a adsl filtered NTE5 faceplate if that helps.

 

[Orcvader]

If your master socket has an ADSL faceplate, you could buy a longer DSL cable? I'm using a 15m one with my home hub and it's working fine.

 

[TDevlin]

If your master socket has an ADSL faceplate, you could buy a longer DSL cable? I'm using a 15m one with my home hub and it's working fine.

That would solve the problem and 15m would definitely be enough, but I'm still hoping for an easier alternative than having to run a cable through the house.

 

[Orcvader]

That would solve the problem and 15m would definitely be enough, but I'm still hoping for an easier alternative than having to run a cable through the house.

Keep hub where it is, connect a powerline adapter to it, then another one in the bedroom with a switch, or another router with DHCP off if you want another wireless point as well as ethernet. That way no big wire mess .

 

[TDevlin]

Keep hub where it is, connect a powerline adapter to it, then another one in the bedroom with a switch, or another router with DHCP off if you want another wireless point as well as ethernet. That way no big wire mess .

I may end up doing this if it'll make a diffference to my internet connection. I'm not very clued up on anything like this as never had to look into it before. But recently I've started streaming movies to my ps3 and looking into the possibilites of a dedicated media streamer and maybe a NAS box. So an improved connection would really help.

My current set up with the bt home hub downstairs gives me download speeds of around 5 Mb/s and upload speeds or around 0.3 Mbs (according to online broadband speed checks) and I wasn't sure if this is adequate for streaming HD files or not? And would it make much of a difference having the wireless point in the same room as the equipment I'm using?

 

[InQ]

Yeah, just want to know how to move it, assuming that can be done of course.

I did put filters on the other sockets although thinking about it, I may have missed one out. And I could be wrong but as far as I know all the other sockets are wired from the one in the hallway. Also it has a adsl filtered NTE5 faceplate if that helps.

Are the other sockets wired from the back of the filtered faceplate terminals and are NOT run from the front plug in sockets?

The terminals on the back of the normal filtered faceplates (like the BT ones which have "BT V1.0" on the front) are for voice lines only and have the ADSL portion of the frequency range filtered out hence a router wont work on those extensions as you found out.

It seems you can get filtered faceplates with the unfiltered terminals on the back (as well as including the filtered terminals) so if you want to use one of the existing extension sockets get one of these and use that one extension on the unfiltered terminals.

http://www.clarity.it/acatalog/ADSL_Installation.html

 

[TDevlin]

Are the other sockets wired from the back of the filtered faceplate terminals and are NOT run from the front plug in sockets?

The terminals on the back of the normal filtered faceplates (like the BT ones which have "BT V1.0" on the front) are for voice lines only and have the ADSL portion of the frequency range filtered out hence a router wont work on those extensions as you found out.

It seems you can get filtered faceplates with the unfiltered terminals on the back (as well as including the filtered terminals) so if you want to use one of the existing extension sockets get one of these and use that one extension on the unfiltered terminals.

http://www.clarity.it/acatalog/ADSL_Installation.html

I'm not really sure how it wired to be honest. Thanks for the info, I'm thinking I might just leave the router where it is this now, rather than go changing any wiring or sockets, as it's a bit out of my area of expertise.

Or I may speak to my cousin about this next time I get the chance as he's the one with the technical knowledge and the one who installed the faceplate. But before I do that, would I notice much of a difference with having the router in the same room as my pc/ps3 or would the difference in connection be negligible?

 

[Orcvader]

Well, it will increase wireless speed as the distance shrinks and hence a stronger wireless signal, so transfer speed between devices will boost up to 130mbps (Max wireless speed of HH3). But it will not make a difference to your internet speed. Rather, connecting it to an extension socket could lower the internet speed instead.

Besides, streaming HD files from one device to another on the same network depends more on the local wireless/ethernet speeds, not the internet. The HH3 is fast enough for this, I was able to stream 1080p on a 54mbps wireless connection with no problems.

 

[TDevlin]

Think I will move it then, as even though I don't like the idea of possibly losing internet speed, I'm more concerned with the local network. I'm currently using the Home Hub 1.0 not the HH3 so I'm thinking it's time for an upgrade as it could be this that's holding me back.