Moving BT hub

RobTi

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Hi I remember years back it was recommended to fit the hub/router at the main incoming socket, does this still hold true, mother has just got br fibre installed and I would like to move the hub from the back of the house where main socket is to the front of the house for better signal and better phone loudness?
Thanks
 
That was true for VDSL when broadband came via the phone line. House extensions could have a detrimental impact on the line and you'd end up with lower speeds.

I'm presuming you mean BT hub? If so, you can run an internal cat5e or above from the ONT to the BT hub to wherever you want. If not, I think Openreach will offer to move the external part of the fibre as a cost option, BT should be able to advise.
 
ChrisD. said:
That was true for VDSL when broadband came via the phone line. House extensions could have a detrimental impact on the line and you'd end up with lower speeds.

I'm presuming you mean BT hub? If so, you can run an internal cat5e or above from the ONT to the BT hub to wherever you want. If not, I think Openreach will offer to move the external part of the fibre as a cost option, BT should be able to advise.
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Sorry yes bt hub,as for Ethernet cable no access above or below so I just wondered if I could plug it into another phone socket
 
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RobTi said:
Sorry yes but hub,as for Ethernet cable no access above or below so I just wondered if I could plug it into another phone socket
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No, you can't as FTTP no longer uses the phone lines. You should see the fibre going to an ONT, then an ethernet cable from that to the BT hub. You can't extend the fibre but you can extend the ethernet cable between the two. There's not enough pins/wires to repurpose the extended phone line as ethernet.
 
Orcvader said:
No, you can't as FTTP no longer uses the phone lines. You should see the fibre going to an ONT, then an ethernet cable from that to the BT hub. You can't extend the fibre but you can extend the ethernet cable between the two. There's not enough pins/wires to repurpose the extended phone line as ethernet.
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Thanks for taking the time to explain, will try and talk her into new house phones
 
Similar sort of question as RobTi had
Expecting FTTP in near future
Any idea if they will position the ONT anywhere in the same room?
Ie I know there's only one wall it can come through
But to plug my existing ethernet cables into the router
I would need it on other side of the room
 
Mcnumpty2323 said:
Similar sort of question as RobTi had
Expecting FTTP in near future
Any idea if they will position the ONT anywhere in the same room?
Ie I know there's only one wall it can come through
But to plug my existing ethernet cables into the router
I would need it on other side of the room
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It'll be engineer dependant, you'll just have to ask when they arrive.
 
RobTi said:
Thanks for taking the time to explain, will try and talk her into new house phones
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Surely the current BT Hub for FTTP customers has a built in ATA for her existing phone to plug into? Just move the phone or base station and be done with it.
Mcnumpty2323 said:
Similar sort of question as RobTi had
Expecting FTTP in near future
Any idea if they will position the ONT anywhere in the same room?
Ie I know there's only one wall it can come through
But to plug my existing ethernet cables into the router
I would need it on other side of the room
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As above, but at worst you run a 5e cable to the point you want and then plug the hub in, if it's only to the other side of the room, this generally shouldn't be a massive issue.
 
I was delighted to see I could just plug the ONT directly into my router with an Ethernet cable. I made the investment years ago of running Ethernet cable around the house, now I don't have the unsightly ISP router on display.
 
Avalon said:
Surely the current BT Hub for FTTP customers has a built in ATA for her existing phone to plug into? Just move the phone or base station and be done with it.

As above, but at worst you run a 5e cable to the point you want and then plug the hub in, if it's only to the other side of the room, this generally shouldn't be a massive issue.
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It wouldn't be
But when you have a few herniated vertebrae and other issues
Your days of trying to tack an ethernet cable
Around the skirting board
And behind furniture etc are long gone
It's still a good idea though
Hopefully the engineer has some spare cat cable in the van
And can be bribed with tea/coffee ,cake and biscuits
And has some sympathy
So will either position the ONT where I need it
Or run ethernet cable around for me
Guess worst they can do is say no
Which means no second tea/coffee or cake and biscuits for them :cry:
 
Ouch. That doesn't sound like a whole lot of fun tbh. I'd expect the engineer to be able/willing to install to a reasonable location, the other side of the room from the point of ingress doesn't sound like the kind of thing that requires ladders, working at heights or a 3hr extension to the job, if he's not interested you always have the nuclear option... a bacon sandwich :cry:
 
Avalon said:
Ouch. That doesn't sound like a whole lot of fun tbh. I'd expect the engineer to be able/willing to install to a reasonable location, the other side of the room from the point of ingress doesn't sound like the kind of thing that requires ladders, working at heights or a 3hr extension to the job, if he's not interested you always have the nuclear option... a bacon sandwich :cry:
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A bacon sandwich?
He will be bloody lucky
I can't even get a bacon sandwich
Every time I go to make one
It turns out my missus thinks the local fox
Was more in need of some bacon than I am
She feeds them better than I get :cry::cry:
 
Semple said:
I was delighted to see I could just plug the ONT directly into my router with an Ethernet cable. I made the investment years ago of running Ethernet cable around the house, now I don't have the unsightly ISP router on display.
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They put my ONT in the under stairs cupboard.
They handed me the internal wiring and let me run it under the crawl space, I poked it through an air brick and they did the rest.
 
In response to those saying run cat5e from the ONT to where you want the router to sit, I would not recommend this. Cat5e is only rated up to 1000Mbps (1 gigabit). With new offerings of 1.8 gigabit and likely 2.5 gigabit in the future, you should run cat6 to future proof yourself to handle the bandwidth
 
Marc2180 said:
In response to those saying run cat5e from the ONT to where you want the router to sit, I would not recommend this. Cat5e is only rated up to 1000Mbps (1 gigabit). With new offerings of 1.8 gigabit and likely 2.5 gigabit in the future, you should run cat6 to future proof yourself to handle the bandwidth
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I run cat5e and above all over my house and run 10GbE over it. The rating is for 100m runs and in most cases doesn’t apply to runs in houses as they’re much shorter.
 
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