Moving it a new build but no fibre :(

stoke1863 · 27 May 2018 at 16:08

Hi guys,

Im moving into a new build in a few weeks, but there is no Fibre available and the max reported speed is 6mb which is absolutely pathetic.

The estate has been selling and building houses for 2 years now but i guess im part of the 5% who cant have it,

Are there any alternatives that are worth considering? Virgin is also not available, is 4G good enough now? What about data caps?

gutted

Caged · 27 May 2018 at 16:31

If there’s no wireless ISP option then you’re stuck on ADSL. Pretty poor of the builders to not consider this when planning the estate, and the local authority to not insist on it in the planning phase.

stoke1863 · 27 May 2018 at 16:59

it really is disheartening, i can kiss goodbye to my gaming hobby.

4g wouldnt be too bad, but only EE give you 100GB cap and even that is no where near enough

bremen1874 · 27 May 2018 at 17:07

Ignoring the initial download gaming doesn't require much bandwidth does it?

Streaming video is a different matter.

stoke1863 · 27 May 2018 at 17:09

bremen1874 said:
Ignoring the initial download gaming doesn't require much bandwidth does it?

Streaming video is a different matter.

the initial download alone is going to be a massive PITA, all games now have massive day one patches. I did enjoy watching 4k content on netflix as well, at least i can cancel that now.

Mariusz · 27 May 2018 at 17:15

Would you consider running two lines and using something like Pfsense to load balance the lines.

Quartz · 27 May 2018 at 17:17

stoke1863 said:
Im moving into a new build in a few weeks, but there is no Fibre available and the max reported speed is 6mb which is absolutely pathetic.

So why are you moving there?

stoke1863 · 27 May 2018 at 17:19

Quartz said:
So why are you moving there?

hey man, been renting for 5 years, this is my first ever owned house thats affordable, the internet being pants is not going to stop me buying.

stoke1863 · 27 May 2018 at 17:20

Mariusz said:
Would you consider running two lines and using something like Pfsense to load balance the lines.

Could you explain this?

Raggs · 27 May 2018 at 19:17

you can still game on that 10 years ago was playing PVP wow on 2mb. Christ in 98/99 was on a dial up playing TFC god old days before the **********

Mariusz · 27 May 2018 at 20:20

stoke1863 said:
Could you explain this?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_Load_Balancing

https://www.draytek.co.uk/information/our-technology/load-balancing

Basically you would have two sources of Internet, in your case 6mb + 6mb = 12mb. Not cheap and not something I've done, but something I considered when I viewed a house that could only get 8mb of download and the cabinet was full so fibre wasn't available.

BigT · 28 May 2018 at 07:26

I load balance 3 WAN connections (1 lousy 5Mbit fibre connection and 2 half decent 4G connections) with pfSense. It will give you a snappier experience if you have multiple users but it isn’t a replacement for a good line speed really. On MS patch Tuesday you’ll still find everything painful. For me it lets me isolate one connection predominantly for my devices so it doesn’t get bogged down when my wife’s iPad updates all its apps or the IoT devices all auto update their firmware. Probably the biggest thing pfSense let’s me do is switch rule sets quickly so I can stop everything else using the internet when I want to stream something to my TV etc.

sparkymark75 · 28 May 2018 at 09:56

When I moved into my new build a year ago, there was no fibre and my ADSL connection was 1.6Mb. I was able to game online (but you're right, downloads were a nightmare!). Have you contacted OpenReach to find out if there are plans for rollout of fibre to your area/house?

When I asked the builders, they just said it was "coming but they didn't know when". I got lucky I guess as it was then available for me to order at the end of October last year. Issues with OpenReach meant I didn't get it until December.

Sparx · 28 May 2018 at 18:55

OP could you share the postcode? Some of us might be able to help further then.

the_darjeeling · 28 May 2018 at 20:16

You could try going through Openreach's community Fibre Partnership and ask if they can get a relationship manager to approach the developer about Gap Funding a network upgrade, it worked for me. Depending on the circumstance's it can be successful, failing that you could always move in an put up a banner telling prospective buyers how poor the broadband speeds are. that might trigger a response.

TJM · 28 May 2018 at 22:48

How new is the new build? If you are the first occupant, the BT checker might well be unreliable until a line has been installed.

Have you checked the availability for some of the older addresses in the estate?

Shawreyboy · 29 May 2018 at 11:22

Mariusz said:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_Load_Balancing

https://www.draytek.co.uk/information/our-technology/load-balancing

Basically you would have two sources of Internet, in your case 6mb + 6mb = 12mb. Not cheap and not something I've done, but something I considered when I viewed a house that could only get 8mb of download and the cabinet was full so fibre wasn't available.

Load balancing doesn't normally aggregate the bandwidth like a bonded DSL service so will need configuring to do so. You'll only have 2 x 6Mb lines and not 1 x 12mb line. The Router decides which is the 'quietest' run to send / receive the traffic.

Shawrey

RockSteddy · 30 May 2018 at 16:40

I feel your pain OP, I moved in to my new house in February this year and I only get 6mb here as well (coming from a 20Mb ADSL2+ connection which is not great by today's standards but at least usable). Thankfully my Area is part of Gigaclear's phase 3 roll-out for FTTP, so connections direct to the home of up to 1Gb. That's the good news, the bad news is it won't be ready for orders until late 2019, probably around October. It's going to be a looooong wait