Moving my HH3 & open reach moem

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Lorddalron

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Guys,
Im looking to move my hub & modem along with my server to a better location but wondering what type of cable it is that runs out of my master socket into the open reach modem..Can it even be moved or is it a job for the BT engineer looking to rob me of all my money?
 
Why don't you leave the modem where it is and relocate your router and server only? That way you only need to run a network cable from modem to router.
 
The actual master socket would need to be moved. It has the pre-filtered face plate that's required for VDSL. It could probably be done by you, but probably best to get an engineer to do it.

shine's suggestion is better.
 
shine said:
Why don't you leave the modem where it is and relocate your router and server only? That way you only need to run a network cable from modem to router.
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AMMUT said:
The actual master socket would need to be moved. It has the pre-filtered face plate that's required for VDSL. It could probably be done by you, but probably best to get an engineer to do it.

shine's suggestion is better.
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Thanks guys. Just notice my rather poor spelling of modem :rolleyes:

Im not at home right now to take photos but i think shines photo could be the one. The master socket is located in my hallway, out of that comes the cable for the modem which goes through a wall into my kitchen through a terminal..I take it to be a junction box which looks tidier than just poking the cable through the wall.

What im now thinking is moving the modem to the hallway, tehn running a shorter run of cat5 in the cupboard. Im trying to keep everything as tidy as possible. Im a long time private tennant but theres only so much I can do.
 
The cable between the master socket and the modem is just a length of Cat5e. BT installed my modem upstairs, a fair distance from the socket, by crimping a RJ11 type plug onto the modem end and punching it down at the master socket.

Since then I've terminated the BT supplied cable at a standard Cat5e faceplate (only one pair terminated). There's then a RJ11 cable from there to the modem.
 
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bremen1874 said:
The cable between the master socket and the modem is just a length of Cat5e. BT installed my modem upstairs, a fair distance from the socket, by crimping a RJ11 type plug onto the modem end and punching it down at the master socket.

Since then I've terminated the BT supplied cable at a standard Cat5e faceplate (only one pair terminated). There's then a RJ11 cable from there to the modem.
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I must take a closer look this evening. I was under the impression cat5 cable was thicker?

Main reason for doing all this is so i an hook up all my av equipment to the hub which is beside my living room. I was thinking about homeplugs but i think i can do this cheaper plus i want the server out the way...
 
My memory was playing tricks with me. :(

I've checked and BT's cable wasn't Cat5e, but it doesn't look to be normal twisted pair phone cable either. There are only three pairs, but they appear to be the same weight as the pairs in a Cat5e cable rather than the slightly lighter stuff phone wire usually uses. It's plain white cable so there are no spec labels to look at.

When I rewired I used Cat5e because I had it available, the sync hasn't suffered.
 
mrbell1984 said:
A solution could be leave the white BT modem where it is, and run a cat5/cat6 cable to somewhere else that the black BT HH3 router can be plugged into. (Red Socket) You still get full speeds.
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I would probably do this. I have something similiar, the modem is left mounted on the wall on top of the master socket, and then I used a Cat 5e cable going under the carpet to the HH3 upstairs, where most of the PCs were.

On the other hand, my cousin who's a BT engineer calls the wire that connects the outside to the master socket and the wire that connects the master socket to the white modem a Cat 4 cable...
 
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Orcvader said:
On the other hand, my cousin who's a BT engineer calls the wire that connects the outside to the master socket and the wire that connects the master socket to the white modem a Cat 4 cable...
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Which would need to be 4 pair, and the cable they used on mine was 3 pair. One of life's many mysteries I suppose.
 
Apparently the 3 pair cable they use is similar to cat5e twisting but has 1 less for the smaller external diameter. I assume it's UTP and solid cores as you'd expect for fixed wiring.

So if this is the case a single pair from a cat5e terminated correctly would do the job just fine I'd expect.

I can't figure why they'd use 3 pair though. I get that it's easier to run one cable and swap pairs if one develops a problem but why not just use cheaper and readily available cat5e if it's that similar. Cat5e is rated 100MHz or something which is well above VDSL frequencies.
 
Tealc said:
Apparently the 3 pair cable they use is similar to cat5e twisting but has 1 less for the smaller external diameter. I assume it's UTP and solid cores as you'd expect for fixed wiring.

So if this is the case a single pair from a cat5e terminated correctly would do the job just fine I'd expect.

I can't figure why they'd use 3 pair though. I get that it's easier to run one cable and swap pairs if one develops a problem but why not just use cheaper and readily available cat5e if it's that similar. Cat5e is rated 100MHz or something which is well above VDSL frequencies.
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Copper costs money and BT don't buy their cable from maplins
 
AMMUT said:
The actual master socket would need to be moved. It has the pre-filtered face plate that's required for VDSL. It could probably be done by you, but probably best to get an engineer to do it.

shine's suggestion is better.
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Hi

Not entirely sure about this:confused:
My BT engineer stated that as the master socket is filtered, all other extension sockets are automatically filtered.

I've got my Modem plugged into an extension socket several meters from the master and getting really good, reliable speeds. (37.5/6.5)

No issues what so ever
 
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