MP hacks

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I'm doing research for a college project on MP online gaming and I want to hear about what peoples experiences have been. all comments welcome :)
 
i find that theres 2 aims for hacking, 1 for fun and 1 for fame. people who hack for fun usually don't care if people finds out they're hacking... hacking for fame is annoying if you know his hacking and denying.

is that the kind of thing youre after or have i totally missed the point?
 
I'v used a couple on unprotected servers (the ones where every1 has fake/banned serials)
Playing alone, it gets really boring after about 5 mins, but playing with sum1 else on teamspeak has be fun for at least 10 mins.
Overall, its a very boring way to play the game and i dont see how any1 can be bothered to do it all the time. Its also surprisingly difficult, i thot you wouldnt need to do anything, but theres still quite a bit of user-input required.
 
Thx for the comments and btw do either of u 2 play wow and if so what does you think of the more obvious hacks to be found there (gold power leveling etc.)
 
http://www.punksbusted.com

If you read through the forums will give you a good idea of peoples experience. The sad thing about MP is that if your good and no one knows who you are your guaranteed to be called a cheat. Although I was kicked and banned once and accused of cheating (which I wasnt and dont) but it did make me feel good. And im not a very good player either :p

and im taking about FPS's
 
No, i'v never played WoW (and dont intend to :p )

Edinho said:
If you read through the forums will give you a good idea of peoples experience.
Yeh, i love the posts like: "Help, i am banned from every server, i have never cheated in my life...but 1 time i left my computer on and maybe my brother installed cheets :confused: "
 
If you're writing a paper on it, i'd put a few paragraphs in about false accusations from low/mid skilled players who don't like loosing. I've never used a hack on any online game, yet in a few - UT2k3 in particular - I've been accused of aimbotting and the like. It can make playing in public servers extremly annoying.

I'd say the majority of accusations are false, and that its just a skilled player dominating.
 
I have seen loads of cheaters in online gaming.

Back in 1995-1996 when I was playing duke nukem 3d online on wireplay, there were bright skins, a bright map hack & there was even someone who made a colour aimbot to use with the bright skins. (on a DOS game!)
so cheating in online games isn't really new

I think up to 1996-1997, there was more of a respectfull online gaming community tho. As soon as news of 'pro-gamers' started and Sujoy, fatal1ty etc were getting press coverage there was a sudden surge of cheaters.
I think around the same time, counterstrike was released and I'm pretty sure that is and was the worst game for cheaters.

For some reason kids seem to think if they cheat online they will get noticed and be able to become pro-gamers. Not sure how they think that tho, unless they think they are going to be able to take the cheats to LANs.

Quake3 was quite bad for cheaters aswell tho, esp when OSP became popular :( PB helped combat it a bit, but it never really stopped the people who could program the cheats.

I think kids cheat for a few reasons.
Some do it to annoy people, recently on cs:s this has been seen a lot with the 3day passes. Kids coming onto servers using their sound scripts to play annoying music over the comms and just blatently going round aimbotting.
Some do it to feel like they are good at something, having others looking up to them.
Some do it to become pro-gamers (not sure who they're trying to kid)
Some do it because they can or because they think other good players 'must' be cheating. I find these people really bad and have encountered loads who do this, they have done it to me.

With punkbuster back in the quake3 days, we caught so many people and on a quake3 server I was an admin on I wrote come cvar checking scripts and caught 3 admins from a gaming network. 1 of them was the head admin, who later dissapeared from quake3 (strange that?)

I don't like the way people call cheaters hackers either as most of them are probably 13yr old kids who just download cheats to use and don't have a clue how to program or anything.
 
Yeah in a way I can admire someone who programs their own cheats, bit like virus writers i suppose. But kids, I use kids loosely as a lot should know better, who just go to the websites and ask in the forum "I want a bypass for the latest PB gief now plz" need to be shot.
 
thats multiplayer cheats .de you mean. or MPC. that and Gamerzplanet are the most famous hacking communities. I'm a moderator in a smaller community ( kebukka). a lot of people cheat because they can, or because they want to learn from it. You can find out a lot of things about the server files simply by finding out what does or doesnt work.
 
thing is with cheats

is they are more trouble than they are worth. If you just switch the aimbot and wallhack on, and off you go, any decent admin will spot you a mile off and you can kiss goodbye to the server you were on. Only hope of playing this way is to find a server without an admin, so that even when everbody does know your cheating, nobody can do anything about it

second way of playing is to try to hide it, ie have the wallhack switched on, but try not to look at things you cant see. This is where it gets difficult, as you find it hard to tell what you should and should not be able to see. Unless your going to blatently and openly use them, playing with cheats is harder than without.

as for the reasons why, some people play cheats deliberately to annoy others, others use them because they seriously think they can get away with it and look good on the scoreboard

it may also be worth a chat about what cheats there are. It can range from downloading a wallhack, to using brightly coloured skins (allthough this is considered normal in quake) to exploiting clipping points to get inside/outside the map. Or even stat padding, doing something again and again to get lots of points (specific to Battlefield only i think)
 
Hacking is for people with low self esteem that are so pathetic they have to cheat in a game to try and feel better about being them!

Forget natural talent, or training, they dont care and just want to try and look like the best player with the least effort.

IMHO!
 
I can remember playing CS 5.2 and getting banned from almost all public servers for cheating, as the admins on the server were just crap and couldn't take that 2 or 3 ppl from a clan could kill an entire team etc.

KaHn
 
Real coders don't actually hack themself, they do it as a challenge. You do get your odd coder who will do it just to tick people off but most will just make them and spread them to their friends or even release them to the public basically to say your games anti-cheat sucks.
 
I play CS:S and have been accused of hacking a few times

I think with counter strike the frustration of dying is a lot more since you have to wait for the next round to start which could take a while. In this time people just get angry and frustrated. This can drive them to hacks so they don't have to have this frustration.

Most of people accusing others of hacking are just getting killed a lot so take their frustration out by calling others hackers, denying the fact they aren't as good.
 
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