MS Q3 Earnings

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Electonics and Devices (incl. 360) still lost money ($315m) but this includes the Zune!
Net income of $4.93 billion
Shipped 11m consoles to date (so 500k this quarter... so when compared to NPD sales proves they did channel stuff for xmas but are now channel unstuffing? 65mn? elite?)

but to reiterate.... Net income of $4.93 billion!! The 360 is a casual hobby!

Thursday April 26, 4:10 pm ET
Robust demand for Windows Vista and the 2007 Microsoft Office system drives 72% growth in earnings per share

REDMOND, Wash., April 26 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Microsoft Corp. (Nasdaq: MSFT - News) today announced revenue of $14.40 billion for the quarter ended March 31, 2007, a 32% increase over the same period of the prior year. This revenue drove record profits with operating income of $6.59 billion and net income of $4.93 billion. Diluted earnings per share for the quarter grew 72% to $0.50, and included $0.02 in tax benefits and $0.01 in legal charges.


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Electronics and Devices loses $315M this quarter vs $402M last year. For the year, they've lost $693M vs $861M last year (3 quaters)

Entertainment and Devices Division ("EDD") products include the Microsoft Xbox video game console system, PC games, consumer software and hardware products, the Zune digital music and entertainment device, TV platform products for the interactive television industry, and Mobile and Embedded devices (principally Windows Mobile software platform and Windows Embedded device operating system). The success of video game consoles is determined by console innovation, the portfolio of video game content for the console, online offerings, and the market share of the console. We believe that the functionality of the Xbox 360 console, games portfolio, and online offerings are well-positioned relative to competitive consoles launched during 2006.

EDD revenue decreased during the three months ended March 31, 2007 primarily because of decreased Xbox 360 console sales. During the quarter, we shipped 0.5 million Xbox 360 consoles as compared to 1.7 million consoles in the third quarter of fiscal year 2006, which was the first full quarter of Xbox 360 console sales. Xbox and PC game revenue decreased $393 million or 44% during the three months ended March 31, 2007 due to the decrease in console sales. Revenue from Zune, consumer hardware and software, and TV platforms increased $103 million or 61% during the three months ended March 31, 2007, primarily reflecting the recent release of Zune and new consumer hardware products. Mobile and Embedded Devices revenue increased $38 million or 30% during the three months ended March 31, 2007 driven by sales growth in Windows Mobile software and Windows Embedded operating systems.

EDD revenue increased during the nine months ended March 31, 2007 primarily due to increased Xbox 360 console sales, sales of Zune, and increased Xbox accessories and video game sales. We shipped approximately 5.9 million Xbox 360 consoles during the first nine months of fiscal year 2007. Since the Xbox 360 console was launched in November 2005, we have shipped approximately 11 million units. Xbox and PC game revenue increased $914 million or 37% during the nine months ended March 31, 2007 as a result of the increased number of consoles sold and related accessories and video game sales. Revenue from Zune, consumer hardware and software, and TV platforms increased $426 million or 68% during the nine months ended March 31, 2007, primarily reflecting the release of Zune and new consumer hardware products. Mobile and Embedded Devices revenue increased $109 million or 31% during the nine months ended March 31, 2007, driven by sales growth in Windows Mobile software and Windows Embedded operating systems.

EDD operating loss decreased during the three months ended March 31, 2007 primarily due to decreased products costs from lower sales of Xbox 360 consoles and increased Mobile and Embedded Devices revenue, partially offset by expenses related to the launch of Zune and increased Xbox 360 console warranty expenses. EDD operating loss decreased during the nine months ended March 31, 2007 primarily due to increased Xbox 360 platform sales and improved Xbox 360 console margins, partially offset by expenses related to the launch of Zune and increased Xbox 360 console warranty expenses. Headcount-related costs increased 10% and 13% during the three and nine months ended March 31, 2007, reflecting an increase in salaries and benefits for existing headcount and a 13% increase in headcount, partially offset by decreased stock-based compensation expense.

For fiscal year 2007, we expect revenue to increase due to the increased availability of Xbox 360 during the entire fiscal year and sales of Zune after its November 2006 launch. Revenue from mobility and embedded devices is expected to increase due to unit volume increases of Windows Mobile software driven by increased market demand for phone-enabled devices and Windows Embedded operating systems.
 
They could throw money at the Xbox all year to make content better couldnt they.. Nice to see what a company with literally unlimited ammounts of money can do. Im very happy with my 360 :)
 
Unless i am much mistaken that is the profits for microsoft as a whole?

Not really shocking surprise that they made 5 billion in a quarter is it? The ECC is still losing money by the shedload.
Will be interesting to see what the analysts have to say about the Q3 earnings of MS as a whole due to Vista too, if they are as expected or not.

Still confused by this threads purpose but nm
 
JUMPURS said:
Unless i am much mistaken that is the profits for microsoft as a whole?

Not really shocking surprise that they made 5 billion in a quarter is it? The ECC is still losing money by the shedload.
Will be interesting to see what the analysts have to say about the Q3 earnings of MS as a whole due to Vista too, if they are as expected or not.

Still confused by this threads purpose but nm

With the two recent threads discussing whether MS should abandon the 360 project as it's yet to see actual profits and the various opinions re. whether MS as a whole could sustain such losses I thought 'real' figures over conjecture would would be of interest.

I thought they'd actually pull a profit this quarter in EDD but as the 'huge' losses related to Zune are merged it's hard to tell how the xbox division did on its own.
 
But there where two main reasons for losing money

partially offset by expenses related to the launch of Zune and increased Xbox 360 console warranty expenses.

I think it is interesting that the launch of the Zune is comparible to the increased warranty expenses.

Unless we can find out decent figures on how the EDD is broken down it is all uncertain.

And 315m a quarter loss is 1.2 Billion a year extra. Which is quite a lot of money.
 
its better when worded like this

Xbox Business still losing money for MS, Xbox 360 sales decrease woefully


Despite Microsoft announcing record profits for its third fiscal quarter, the games division is STILL losing money. The Entertainment and Devices Division (EDD) which includes the Xbox and PC gaming business' experienced a decline in revenue by 21 percent. MS stated a contributing factor to this dip in performance was a reduction in sales of the Xbox 360 console.


Microsoft said that revenue was down for the quarter because of “decreased Xbox 360 console sales.” The company shipped 500K consoles during the period, bringing the worldwide total to about 11 million consoles.

The same quarter a year ago saw console sales of 1.7 million units, due to that period being the first full quarter that the console was on the market. Xbox 360 launched in November 2005.

Xbox 360 and PC software sales followed the quarterly decline in hardware, as revenue from games decreased $393 million, or 44 percent.

Microsoft attributed the improvement in operating losses to the lower Xbox 360 console sales, as the company loses money on every Xbox 360 produced and sold. Revenue from the Mobile and Embedded Devices segment also helped improve EDD’s overall operating loss.


News Source: Next-Gen.biz
 
McManicMan said:
its better when worded like this

Xbox Business still losing money for MS, Xbox 360 sales decrease woefully

This is the thing though. We know sold means shipped to retail. NPD data alone for the US shows they sold in excess of 720,000 in the US (199k March, 228k Feb, 294k Jan). Add Europe, Australia and the 12k or so in Japan (lol) etc and you probably have close to 1m sold. Add the fact that at the end of last year they changed their forecasts to 12m by June (which surprised people if they really had sold 10m) and it kind of proves in my opinion the theories that they 'stuffed the channel' to get the 10m "sold" by the end of 2006. This quarter they've tickled 500,000 consoles in and have mostly been selling from inventory.
 
Interesting the sales have slumped so much.
I don't think they have starved the supply for the Elite, as you can get an xbox 360 quite easily.
It is more likely due to the Wii spanking everything and the PS3 not exactly doing too bad neither.
 
JUMPURS said:
Interesting the sales have slumped so much.
I don't think they have starved the supply for the Elite, as you can get an xbox 360 quite easily.
It is more likely due to the Wii spanking everything and the PS3 not exactly doing too bad neither.

Its better than the PS3 sales slump, which must be very worrying for Sony considering the new toy syndrome does not seem to be working.
 
McManicMan said:
its better when worded like this
..

Depends on what you're trying to acheive.

The other article does a better job of painting the big picture; i.e. the huge profits that Microsoft are making as a whole and that losses from the entertainment division are actually down $200mil on the equivalent 3/4 from the previous year.

Best to read both articles and make your mind up I guess.
 
JUMPURS said:
Interesting the sales have slumped so much.
I don't think they have starved the supply for the Elite, as you can get an xbox 360 quite easily.
It is more likely due to the Wii spanking everything and the PS3 not exactly doing too bad neither.
The PS3 is slumping even more! I think a lot of people will be holding out for the elite model as why would you buy a console with a better version just around the corner?

I doubt the Wii stole many sales as it's aimed at a much less narrow and saturated market.
 
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