MSI GTX970 and Nvidia Drivers problem

[Vimes]

MSI GTX970 and Nvidia Drivers problem, other brands..?

Hi

When I had a clean install of the 344.16 drivers for my MSI GTX 970 all seemed well. Then a clean install of the newly released 344.48 drivers also seemed fine until I noticed this....



....if you look under the Fan Speed (RPM) you will see red blips every thirty seconds or so which shows that both the cooling fans spin up to around 800rpm for a few seconds and then stops. Checking with the case cover off and it confirms the stopping and starting of the fans. This will repeat forever, or so it seems.

This did not happen with the previous 344.16 drivers and going back to them gives me this...



....no "polling" or regular spinning up of the cooling fans. So for now I have kept to the 344.16 release.

I have noted it over at the driver feedback section at Geforce...

https://forums.geforce.com/default/...-display-driver-feedback-thread-10-22-14-/32/

...which if you notice it to you might want to add your post.

I did notice that someone had linked a video showing this happening with these drivers....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzTTkSvGgZU

and they too, and a couple of other people, noted that going back to the 344.16 drivers resolved that.

As you do not hear the fans as the come on and off people might not have noticed it happening, but it can't be a good thing.

Anyone else seen this...?

 

[Vimes]

Because this is an issue that people might not be aware of I also wondered if it does the same with any other brand of 9x0 card and the 344.48 drivers, or does it seem to be only the MSI card which acts in this way...?


lol

Ditto to what Nelly just posted

 

[Vimes]

I'm not sure either of the detrimental effect to the card or fans long term, but it can't be a good thing.
What brand are your cards..?

For those who do have this issue please note it over at the Geforce forum and if the issue does seem spefic to MSI then they can be informed,

 

[Vimes]

Maybe with Nvidia picking up on this issue something might be done.....

https://forums.geforce.com/default/...0-fan-problems-with-gtx-980-msi-gaming-help-/

ManuelG said
Let me look into this. I know its not a reference design but could someone share their VBIOS ROM for their MSI GeForce GTX 970 GPU by extracting it using GPU-Z or any other utility and then email it to [email protected]? Include a description of the issue so I know what it is in reference to or simply a link back to this thread. Thanks.

344.60 are just the same and the fans are meant to be at zero until the temp gets to 60c, IIRC

 

[Vimes]

Nice one Vimes, I've made a post on that very thread you just posted, hopefully Nvidia will sort this out with MSI.

Also sent my BIOS along with details of issue to driverfeedback email address.

Model: MSI GTX 970 Gaming 4G

Manufacturers Code: 912-V316-001

BIOS: NV316MH.126

Just to note this issue does not occur on 344.16 driver.

Problem on driver 344.48 and 344.60

No problem, it i letting the appropriate people know and the nwe might have a chance of a resolve.

The Nvidia rep replied...

This looks to be a VBIOS issue. MSI already has a fixed VBIOS that corrects this problem. Can those with MSI 970/980 cards please check if a new VBIOS is available to you through their Live Update software?


http://download.msi.com/uti_exe/LiveUpdate.zip


If not, please contact MSI and find out if they can provide you with the fixed VBIOS. If they are not aware of this, lmk and I will check with our product manager to see what the status of the VBIOS is. Thanks.

but it does not work as it already detects that my card has BIOS version 126 (updated from 125) and the 180 BIOS is for cards with the Hynix memory and not the Samsung type.
So no BIOS update.

I have replied and let him know in that thread.




NVidia have since replied to my post....

ManuelG:
Thanks. Let me look into this and get back to everyone in this thread.

 

[Vimes]

A bit extreme, maybe, but I decided to modify the BIOS on my 970 and flash that so now I can use the latest drivers with no fan polling etc...

http://files.upit.me/1415533618.gif


....hopefully MSI / Nvidia will come up with an official resolve but it the meantime this seems to be fine for me.

A little unnerving doing it but it seems to be fine.

 

[Vimes]

From what I have read over at the Geforce forums...

MSI has addressed this via a VBIOS update, you can get the VBIOS update with the MSI tool here:

http://us.msi.com/page/Live-Update-6-Manual

...although, as yet there is no update showing, but the Rep repiled to that....

will likely be available soon then, keep an eye on it.

 

[Vimes]

Well done for the heads up Nelly, mine has been updated now and all seems well.

Nice to see the fan speed at 0% and no longer 1% when at idle.

No more polling noted, using the 344.65 drivers.

 

[Vimes]

I was going to do this but a few posts on that site and the German one keep repeating that they are not MSi. A few people seem to have had issues with the bios and MSi have said they have not released any GPU bios updates and if so it would be by Liveupdate and any other method would void the warranty.

I'm sure it's all ok but I'm going to wait for MSi to release the live update version. I run the fan at %30 at idle so not to much of an issue for me.

Hopefully they will be ok. I just went of what was written here...




....it states that these are from MSI but I do take your point.