MSI MAG X570 Tomahawk Wifi : NVMe Boot Drive Issues

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I wasn't sure if this should be here or in storage subforum... but figured it was probably mobo specific, so lumped it here - mods, please move if appropriate.

TLDR:-
Does the X570, in particular the MSI MAG X570 Tomahawk Wifi have issues booting from an NVMe ?


I've got a Ryzen 5900X running on a MSI MAG X570 Tomahawk Wifi, and using 2x 2TB NVMe drives (Crucial P5, and Kingston Fury).

I originally transferred my Windows installation onto one of the NVME drives from an SSD, and everything ran fine for 6 months or so. Recently I started getting some BSOD with different error codes. So I decided to do a fresh install of Windows.

I've checked the memory with Memtest95: 5 passes all clean.
I've tried multiple USB installations using both Win10 and Win11, but every time whether using the Crucial or the Kingston drive I will get a BSOD at some point during the installation.
If I install to an SSD the installation is fine and all seems stable. I'm still only a couple of days since installation, but no BSOD yet.

Can anyone shed any light as to why this may be the case?
 
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I originally transferred my Windows installation onto one of the NVME drives from an SSD, and everything ran fine for 6 months or so. Recently I started getting some BSOD with different error codes. So I decided to do a fresh install of Windows.

I've checked the memory with Memtest95: 5 passes all clean.
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If it only happened after 6 months, I'd be pretty confident that your board can handle the drives just fine.

Are you running an overclock / PBO?

Have you tested the SSDs and checked their SMART?

Did you change anything with the PC recently, including peripherals/wireless devices?

Any unrelated issues that you've had in the last few weeks?
 
I was thinking why has is suddenly gone wrong, and I tried:
- remove the Crucual NVMe
- remove the Kingston NVMe
- remove all drives other than the NVMe (tried both)
- remove both NVME's and only have the SSD... which was I noticed there were no BSODs
All SMART details are showing as good / no issues.

For settings, I tried many things including:
- PBO overclock off and on
- trying one stick of RAM at a time.
- reducing RAM speeds to 3200 (from 3600 on XMP)

As for changes, the PC is in a near constant state of flux, with drivers, and button boxes/controllers being added/removed, so pinpointing a single event is difficult.
The one niggly thing that sticks out is that my mic has always been quiet until recently. I reinstalled realtek audio drivers and suddenly the mic was back to normal. Possibly something happened there.
 
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No issues with my board. Been running with just 2 NVME drives for about 2 years now.

I would revert everything back to stock settings and update the board the latest BIOS version if needed. If your able to check if a firmware update is available for the NVME drives and only connect the bare minimum devices needed during the Windows installation.
 
Thanks for the confirmation that it should work fine.
I'm going to stick with this configuration, having windows on an SSD for the time being.
When I come to the next reinstall, I'll do as you suggest, going back to stock bios settings etc.
 
Thanks for the comments and ideas.
I have tried using the different NVMe slots with both drives.
CPU... I'm still ticking over stable with the SSD, so I'm not going mess with things for a while.
I have my main question answered, in that SpudMaster has his running with just NVMe drives, so it is some issue at my end that I will look into again when I next refresh my windows installation.
 
Littlenose said:
I wasn't sure if this should be here or in storage subforum... but figured it was probably mobo specific, so lumped it here - mods, please move if appropriate.

TLDR:-
Does the X570, in particular the MSI MAG X570 Tomahawk Wifi have issues booting from an NVMe ?


I've got a Ryzen 5900X running on a MSI MAG X570 Tomahawk Wifi, and using 2x 2TB NVMe drives (Crucial P5, and Kingston Fury).

I originally transferred my Windows installation onto one of the NVME drives from an SSD, and everything ran fine for 6 months or so. Recently I started getting some BSOD with different error codes. So I decided to do a fresh install of Windows.

I've checked the memory with Memtest95: 5 passes all clean.
I've tried multiple USB installations using both Win10 and Win11, but every time whether using the Crucial or the Kingston drive I will get a BSOD at some point during the installation.
If I install to an SSD the installation is fine and all seems stable. I'm still only a couple of days since installation, but no BSOD yet.

Can anyone shed any light as to why this may be the case?
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any chance it relates to the 2nd slot?

MSI's X570 Tomahawk May Become Go-To OC Board??

Finally downloaded drivers and BIOS to update. Current BIOS version I'm running is dated 23.06.2021. Not sure when the drivers were last updated.
forums.overclockers.co.uk forums.overclockers.co.uk
 
Cheers - that's interesting. I had tried without anythign in Slot 2, but didn't reset the BIOS.
I'll add that to the list of things to try on next Windows re-install.
 
I've been running two NVMe drives in my X570 since December 2020 without any problems at all.

Not sure which BIOS I have. It was updated within the last few months to latest stable. Updated chipset drivers and what not too.

My boot drive is the primary in my sig
 
Cheers... I'm still stable booting off the SSD, and I'm running both NVMe's happily (Steam on one and DCS on the other)... no issues to report yet.
I guess my only confusion at the moment is that it was running stable on NVME's, so what did I do to make it unstable booting from an NVMe? :cry:
 
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Sorry for necro’ing. I’ve also been getting random BSODs with this mobo. Had it since 2020.

Always assumed it was all just because of my very overdue need to reinstall windows, lots of old crap leftover from installs/updates/registry changes etc.

One day I decided enough was enough and also fancied increasing my storage so I went with a 4TB NVME (samsung 990 pro), updated bios to latest, swapped the drives and got to work.

Everything nice and fresh, running smooth for a few weeks, then suddenly the random BSODs are back. Happened once during a Teams meeting at work, other times when idle. In almost all cases though, when going into the bios I noticed that it couldn’t see the NVME at all, so I’d have to do a cold restart with the power button to remind the PC that the drive is indeed there.

Event Viewer used to show lots of errors relating to dropbox… since getting rid of it it seems more stable.

But it does seem strange for a motherboard to just spontaneously forget that it has an NVME drive in it, i imagine a random BSOD is exactly how it would react too…

Anyways just posting this in case anyone else has experienced something similar or if any of these clues help lead to finding the underlying cause.
 
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