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MSI still going to produce AMD Graphics Cards?

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Why haven't MSI released a press release for an RX 590 graphics card, are they going to produce one? Also MSI never released an Vega 56 / 64 custom cooled graphics cards, why? Also will MSI still manufacture AMD graphics cards going forward?

MSI seem to be still releasing FreeSync monitors.

The only stock in general in the UK seems to be the MSI RX 580/570 ARMOR 8G OC graphics cards.
 
MSI products are hugely inferior to most other manufacturers... not a loss for AMD customers to be honest.. i have 2 MSI motherboard and both had to be RMA'd due to issues, i had 2 MSI 290 Gaming GPU's and couldnt run them in Xfire as the first one superheated the 2nd one, later the first one failed followed not long after by the 2nd lol... i would steer clear of MSI, they products are largely garbage.
 
As the 590 is just the old 480 again, so its not worth bothering with, its a totally pointless card.

Vega was crap at launch, and late, so they knew they were hardly going to sell, so they weren't too interested in it, and with them doing Nvidia cards too, they didn't need too, as Nvidia have the market, and are the ones they'll sell, not AMDs, theres no point them doing cards that they are hardly/not going to sell.
 
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LoadsaMoney said:
As the 590 is just the old 480 again, so its not worth bothering with, its a totally pointless card.

Vega was crap at launch, and late, so they knew they were hardly going to sell, so they weren't too interested in it, and with them doing Nvidia cards too, they didn't need too, as Nvidia have the market, and are the ones they'll sell, not AMDs, tehrs no point them doing cards that are non sellers.
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More a loss to them I think, we've sold 200 Sapphire already, nearly 100 Powercolor and the Asrock is starting to accelerate. :)
 
Vega 64 seems to be selling well in the USA. I've just seen a well known USA retailer sold nearly 1,200 Sapphire Vega 64 reference cards in the last 24 hours on their eBay outlet. 1,600+ sold in total. :eek:
 
H'mm, I bet @Gibbo knows something... check this out for the development news for MSI Afterburner, posted by Unwinder the developer. Just so happens it's got AMD enhancements and MSI sent the developer a new engineering sample of a custom design flagship model. Could be a Lightning model though for Nvidia?

Source: https://forums.guru3d.com/threads/rtss-6-7-0-beta-1.412822/page-79

MSI Afterburner development news | Posted: 21 November 2018:
  • New MSI custom design flagship engineering sample is on the way to me now. This MSI non-reference design product line traditionally have exclusive multi-channel voltage control and multiple additional memory and VRM thermal sensors, so I’ll need to implement support for this card. Once it is implemented, we’ll probably release official 4.6.0
  • While the sample is in the way, I’ll be working on some additional features which I planned to add to 4.6.0 before it goes final:
  • Voltage/Frequency curve editor will be unlocked for AMD cards. There is no exactly equal NVIDIA-styled voltage/frequency curve tuning support on AMD side but this GUI (in slightly altered form) can be used to allow editing all P-States instead of adjusting just the highest P7 now. Screenshot is demonstrating new planned GUI prototype.
  • Voltage/Frequency editor functionality will be slightly upgraded for NVIDIA cards too, it will be possible to override visible range of clocks/voltages so those who use V/F curve editor to lock voltage and reduce power consumption (mostly my “favorite” miners) will be able to go below the previous GUI minimum (800mV) if necessary.
  • There will be dedicated button for launching OC scanner from main window GUI (also shown on prototype screenshot in top left corner)
  • Monitoring tab GUI will get additional useful helper keyboard shortcuts. It will be possible to override OSD/LCD group name for all graphs in the group at once (now you have to manually rename “CPU1” to something like “i7 8700K” for all grouped graphs). It will be also possible to use <Alt> modifier when changing some monitoring options (e.g. when toggling “Show in OSD” option) to apply it to all similar graphs at once (e.g. holding <Alt> and ticking “Show in OSD” for “CPU1 temperature” graph will also synchronically enable “Show in OSD” for the rest “CPUx temperature” graphs”).
  • ___Probably___ we’ll unlock OC scanner button for GTX 1000 family (no promises on it, there is no final decision on it yet). NVIDIA are working on their NV Scanner implementation for GTX 1000 family in recent drivers so the scanner is already breathing on previous GPU generations. There are still some open issues left, but I’m thinking about allowing you to play with scanner “as is” in the next beta.
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I've been thinking the same thing. Back when the 280x was a thing, MSI did great cards. Now I look for a decent MSI 580 and there's only their Armor card which looks pants and clearly a cut down version. Where's the high end cooler and RGB MSI? Sad because for my next build it all revolves around MSI Mystic Light, but they have no AMD graphics cards with RGB..
 
I reckon it's down to MSI not wanting to develop different heatsinks & coolers for AMD cards, In the past we've seen MSI, Asus & Gigabyte all use components that had originally been made for Nvidia cards on AMD cards and it's resulted in a lot of poor performing cards which hurt how consumers perceive those brands so maybe MSI simply didn't want to bother with Vega which is a product of extremes that need decent coolers designed for them so they opted out this time around, I wonder if they regret it now? With the AMD only brands they do all their R&D for AMD and they consistently bring better products to the table, It's also good to see that they're finally starting to increase their warranties.
 
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I reckon it's down to MSI not wanting to develop different heatsinks & coolers for AMD cards, In the past we've seen MSI, Asus & Gigabyte all use components that had originally been made for Nvidia cards on AMD cards and it's resulted in a lot of poor performing cards which hurt how consumers perceive those brands so maybe MSI simply didn't want to bother with Vega which is a product of extremes that need decent coolers designed for them so they opted out this time around, I wonder if they regret it now? With the AMD only brands they do all their R&D for AMD and they consistently bring better products to the table, It's also good to see that they're finally starting to increase their warranties.
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MSI, Gigabyte and Asus are generally lower quality (despite Asus being more expensive). The cooler on the Asus Vega cards was badly bodged.

All of the MSI GPUs I've owned went faulty at some point :/
 
I had mostly Asus cards up till I got an MSI 7850 & then an MSI TFIII 7950 boost, I then went with an MSI TFIV 770 & then after an EVGA 780 I moved to an MSI TFIV 290x which was a terrible card, it put me right off MSI. More recently I bought a Gigabyte 560 which was loud and hot, such a low powered card should never be like that so I wrote both of them off for future AMD purchases. As for Asus their rep with AMD cards speaks for itself. :D
 
nashathedog said:
I reckon it's down to MSI not wanting to develop different heatsinks & coolers for AMD cards, In the past we've seen MSI, Asus & Gigabyte all use components that had originally been made for Nvidia cards on AMD cards and it's resulted in a lot of poor performing cards which hurt how consumers perceive those brands so maybe MSI simply didn't want to bother with Vega which is a product of extremes that need decent coolers designed for them so they opted out this time around, I wonder if they regret it now? With the AMD only brands they do all their R&D for AMD and they consistently bring better products to the table, It's also good to see that they're finally starting to increase their warranties.
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I can't see them regretting it, probably not losing anything by not doing them now.
 
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Troezar said:
Surprised at some of the accounts here. I've not had one issue with MSI going back to the Athlon days. Maybe just lucky?
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Must be luck. 3 of my x99 msi motherboards died sold 4th one got ASRock worked fine and still does at my mates.

So even better that now @Gibbo sorted ASRock GPUs would be my nr 2 pick just after Inno3d that I had 3 and not a single problem either :)
 
Troezar said:
Surprised at some of the accounts here. I've not had one issue with MSI going back to the Athlon days. Maybe just lucky?
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I've never had any issues, bought MSI ATI X800 XT P.E 256MB I had for 2-years with no issues, sold it on. MSI GeForce GTX 580 OC Twin FrozR II 1536MB I had for 10 months with no issue, sold on. MSI GTX 970 Gaming Edition 4GB no issues for months, returned due to Nvidia 3.5GB false advertising. MSI Z77 MPower motherboard still going strong after 6-years.
 
KentMan said:
MSI products are hugely inferior to most other manufacturers... not a loss for AMD customers to be honest.. i have 2 MSI motherboard and both had to be RMA'd due to issues, i had 2 MSI 290 Gaming GPU's and couldnt run them in Xfire as the first one superheated the 2nd one, later the first one failed followed not long after by the 2nd lol... i would steer clear of MSI, they products are largely garbage.
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I have to disagree with this. I have had several MSI cards over the years and stripped them down to put waterblocks on and there is quality components under the hood. My MSI Lightnings were seriously harmed in benching (some serious volts put through them) and they just kept on going and never failed me.
 
Zeed said:
Must be luck. 3 of my x99 msi motherboards died sold 4th one got ASRock worked fine and still does at my mates.

So even better that now @Gibbo sorted ASRock GPUs would be my nr 2 pick just after Inno3d that I had 3 and not a single problem either :)
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Yea the Asrock boards are pretty solid. Much better than anything MSI churns out.
 
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