Soldato
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I've posted this on Pepipoo already before anyone suggests it (hence "the driver"), not getting much action so thought I'd see what OcUK's armchair lawyers suggest. I've put the relevant photos in spoilers.
"This story makes more sense in chronological order in terms of how the events unfolded rather than dates, so bear with me...
The driver went on holiday from 7.7.18 to 17.7.18 and spent the entire time parked on a private road. The driver didn't see the signs at the time but there are fairly obvious signs saying it is private and that it is operated by PCM. See here, the driver parked the other side of the crossroads. https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.6715359,-...3312!8i6656
The driver returned to the car on the evening of 17.7 to find a parking ticket that had been issued that morning at 10:51 (attached). I also attach copies of the photos before and after the ticket was applied to the windscreen.
I did some digging and read somewhere, although I can't now find where, that firms registered with the IPC take much longer and are a much more involved process to try and get out of. For the sake of £60 and not having the time to spend fighting it the discounted fine was paid.
On 22.8 the driver visited an old address (V5 has now been sent off to be updated!) to find a letter from PCM dated 10.8 saying another ticket had been issued on 11.7 at 20:58. I have attached that letter as well as the evidence photos. It has now become apparent that not only was the first ticket not still applied to the windscreen at the time the second was applied, but the wing mirror had also been pushed in!! An action by the ticketing officer to make it look like the car had moved perhaps?
So now what to do about the second ticket (which was actually the first to be issued). At the very least there has been no opportunity to pay the discounted charge for the second (first) ticket. I did read on another thread there was Department for Transport guidance about continuous contraventions and also the Geffan case but not sure if either applies here. Has life been made more difficult by paying the second (actual) ticket?
I suppose at least it isn't 11 tickets.. "
What do OcUK? At minimum I plan to appeal that there was no chance to pay the discounted amount for the first ticket as it wasn't on the car when "the driver" returned.
I haven't got the time or the inclination to drag this out over weeks, months or years and possibly take it all the way to court.
"This story makes more sense in chronological order in terms of how the events unfolded rather than dates, so bear with me...
The driver went on holiday from 7.7.18 to 17.7.18 and spent the entire time parked on a private road. The driver didn't see the signs at the time but there are fairly obvious signs saying it is private and that it is operated by PCM. See here, the driver parked the other side of the crossroads. https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.6715359,-...3312!8i6656
The driver returned to the car on the evening of 17.7 to find a parking ticket that had been issued that morning at 10:51 (attached). I also attach copies of the photos before and after the ticket was applied to the windscreen.
I did some digging and read somewhere, although I can't now find where, that firms registered with the IPC take much longer and are a much more involved process to try and get out of. For the sake of £60 and not having the time to spend fighting it the discounted fine was paid.
On 22.8 the driver visited an old address (V5 has now been sent off to be updated!) to find a letter from PCM dated 10.8 saying another ticket had been issued on 11.7 at 20:58. I have attached that letter as well as the evidence photos. It has now become apparent that not only was the first ticket not still applied to the windscreen at the time the second was applied, but the wing mirror had also been pushed in!! An action by the ticketing officer to make it look like the car had moved perhaps?
So now what to do about the second ticket (which was actually the first to be issued). At the very least there has been no opportunity to pay the discounted charge for the second (first) ticket. I did read on another thread there was Department for Transport guidance about continuous contraventions and also the Geffan case but not sure if either applies here. Has life been made more difficult by paying the second (actual) ticket?
I suppose at least it isn't 11 tickets.. "
What do OcUK? At minimum I plan to appeal that there was no chance to pay the discounted amount for the first ticket as it wasn't on the car when "the driver" returned.
I haven't got the time or the inclination to drag this out over weeks, months or years and possibly take it all the way to court.
