Music - Is it dictated?

lol, how could music ever die lol.

FYI there is good popular music, but for most individuals, only 5-10 % of that music will be good, and everyone will have their own tastes.

I didnt really have to look very hard to find artists like Alicia Keys, Norah Jones or Adele, they were always on the TV. I had to look harder to find recordings of Chopin, Mozart and Joplin though, but now you can hear all of those on youtube.
 
Here is my argument:

Musicians are still producing music AND there is a lot of music being planned for the future. Therefore, music is not dying.

Throughout 80ies and 90ies, because release model was different, you had musicians that could quite easily create purely studio stuff and live off music sales without going on tour or playing live. Sometimes entire labels were based on this model - if you look at catalogue of, let's say 4AD, due to how this music was created and how much effort was required to reproduce it on stage you would rarely see bands like Dead Can Dance or the "project" groups like This Mortal Coil play live and yet all members could happily make living from their creations, with occasional break through to main stream media in form of soundtrack or background music for documentary. The whole system relied on audiophiles around the world going to their local Tower Records and Beggars Banquet outlets and buying the vinyl album in its entirety, instead of chunk of their 40 minute suite as 79 pence itunes track.

Today it's different. Yes you can create music and publish it for handful of listeners, acquire niche audience via internet media but you will never be able to make living that way. Unless artis is prepared to go touring every year or let rappers borrow samples, the next Enya or Mike Oldfield will need a day job to feed their kids. Using my original example if Dead Can Dance happened today, they would have to quickly switch to working as waiters in Melbourne, and anything that was created as a result of their expressions and relations with other studio musicians, from 50 odd soundtracks, from Baraka, through the ethereal death scene in Gladiator and Constantine, all the way to Deus Ex: Human Revolution probably wouldn't happen. And the world would be THAT much poorer for it.
 
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I'm not sure that I quite understand what your point is. You've said that music is dying and that the industry churns out rubbish. This is your opinion, not everyone shares this opinion.

My point is that it is due to this difference in opinion which has caused the music industry to be in the state that it is at the moment.

I hate the terms 'good music' and 'bad music'. They literally mean nothing. It should be 'music that you like/dislike'

I think I made my opinion quite clear from the outset, to anyone with reasonable intelligence. People seem to want to get argumentative about it with semantics, but nevermind. I'll spell it out for you again. The music Industry churns out ****.
 
I think I made my opinion quite clear from the outset, to anyone with reasonable intelligence. People seem to want to get argumentative about it with semantics, but nevermind. I'll spell it out for you again. The music Industry churns out ****.

The music industry is more than just major labels. There are many small indie labels and small, passionate, record stores and PR people who do their jobs really very well promoting good, hard working bands.

They're also part of the music industry.

Mainstream music may be a bit vacuous, but the entire industry is more than just the big three major labels and a bunch of pop acts.
 
Throughout 80ies and 90ies, because release model was different, you had musicians that could quite easily create purely studio stuff and live off music sales without going on tour or playing live. Sometimes entire labels were based on this model - if you look at catalogue of, let's say 4AD, due to how this music was created and how much effort was required to reproduce it on stage you would rarely see bands like Dead Can Dance or the "project" groups like This Mortal Coil play live and yet all members could happily make living from their creations, with occasional break through to main stream media in form of soundtrack or background music for documentary. The whole system relied on audiophiles around the world going to their local Tower Records and Beggars Banquet outlets and buying the vinyl album in its entirety, instead of chunk of their 40 minute suite as 79 pence itunes track.

Today it's different. Yes you can create music and publish it for handful of listeners, acquire niche audience via internet media but you will never be able to make living that way. Unless artis is prepared to go touring every year or let rappers borrow samples, the next Enya or Mike Oldfield will need a day job to feed their kids. Using my original example if Dead Can Dance happened today, they would have to quickly switch to working as waiters in Melbourne, and anything that was created as a result of their expressions and relations with other studio musicians, from 50 odd soundtracks, from Baraka, through the ethereal death scene in Gladiator and Constantine, all the way to Deus Ex: Human Revolution probably wouldn't happen. And the world would be THAT much poorer for it.

Anyone can create a publish music now, but it's easier than ever to get a following and a lot of fans from what your doing. Why do you think PR companies exist? There's more places covering music, promoting music and releasing music than ever before.

It's entirely possible to make a megre living from it if you're prepared to tour and record relentlessly for the first few years of your career. Major labels may not tout bands any more (they simply don't want to invest time in developing acts, and perhaps Coldplay are the only rock band of this era who have had time and investment from a major from the start of their career), but it's possible to scrape together a living from making music today.

Just don't expect to have a lavish lifestyle to go with it.

It's easy to release music online, but that music requires a push from someone who knows what they're doing in order to take that act somewhere beyond their home town. PR companies literally push new music upon me/my website every day and they really DO work.
 
Yes it's dictated


But the stuff that gets put on the radio is normally music that they think everyone can enjoy.

A lot of people don't care for good music, they just like the **** that gets fed to them.
 
Nothing new is happening. All over a few artists become successful so all the major labels go 'let's run that way'. Honestly, I agree that you could play anything enough times and people would like, that's pop music. It's so accessible and doesn't really require thought because that's the point of it. Nobody buys Cher Lloyd or Pitbull to listen to the brilliant production or the creative direction. Because there is no production or direction. It's simple, easy music that sounds very similar because people want that. People hear pop music, so all they know is pop music. So they ask for more.

The bottom line is more than ever (and it's always been like this) people aren't really 'interested' in music. It's just something to dance to on the weekend. Kids used to buy records and love albums, now it's all about singles, downloads and whats a good 'floor-filler'. Bad or good, that's how it is.

There's plenty of good music for people who like to sit and listen or appreciate the creation and performance out there. Let the Luddites listen to there 'four-to-the-floor- beats and shallow lyric, ringtone rappers. They can have it.
 
"Charts" are for the uneducated masses who lap up whatever is "popular" for the perceived social acceptability... so basically ignore.
 
Image and marketability>Talent, the Music Industry just wants to scrape as much profit as fast as possible from the window-licking facebooking public. It is nothing but a self-perpetuating ball of self-promotional fadism served to the public by the mass media to target specific markets for the sole purpose of consumerism. Simplez.
 
OP has only just worked out what has been happening since the charts began 50+ years ago.
We have always been spoonfed and it's always been up to the individual to find their own way.
Nothing has changed.
 
Good music exists but you need to be willing to look for it beyond the charts. There are stations (looking at you radio 6) that do decent job of playing a more diverse selection of music but you need to be willing to listen to a lot of stuff you might not like in order to stumble upon something you love. Admittedly you're still at the mercy of the dj's tastes, but it's a cheaper option than trawling local gigs and speculatively buying unknown albums.
 
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