My car...its in bits! lots of them! (project thread bandwagon make room!)

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And it's worse than a dent in the rear seat leather! :eek: :p

Basically a little while ago the diff decided it was going to eat a driveshaft...at 50mph....on a dual carriageway....90 miles from home....joy :D

Me - "Mr Adrian Flux, do I have breakdown cover? yes? ah, excellent. I'd like to use it please"

So the car was at home and at the time I thought the driveshaft was just worn out, so sourced a replacment and an ocuker to come and replace it (-westy- drew the short straw) - Fitted the driveshaft and drove it home, all well and good :) - 2 mins up the road, same banging noise when the car originally blew the CV boot on the first drive shaft...not good.

-westy- did a few tests on some local roads round here and (I'm sure he will be along to give full technical reasons why) diagnosed it as the diff was gone in the gearbox.

Fast forward a couple of weeks, sourced a gearbox which has done 40k motorway miles and then decided how I was going to go about getting the car repaired...

A few beers with the old man later and we decided that the clutch had needed doing for a while now, and the gearbox needs doing, so if your going to do one, then do the other. Also the cambelt REALLY does need doing, I'm about 20k over :eek: and the easiest way for this is an engine out job

Now the price of it all.

I already had a clutch kit for the car, the gearbox cost me £50 and a cambelt price from most places was around the £500 mark. So we decided to do it ourselves for the following reasons -

A) We'd save an absolute packet
B) We'd know it was done right

After many delays we finally started on it this Sunday just gone...

After 4 hours work the car was in a slightly...

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...dismantled state? :D

That's all we had time for. And currently going on the basis of doing an hour each night when we both finish work. (Oh and for the record Dad is doing most/all of the work I'm watching and learning and helping where I can)

At this point the only thing holding the engine in was the engine mounts and a driveshaft.

Post to follow with todays efforts :)
 
Right, as said before the only thing holding the engine in was the 3 engine mounts and a driveshaft.

Got the driveshaft out and it was time for some fun stuff :D

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Latch it on
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Double check!
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It's now or never! Has it moved? ;)
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Err...my engine appears to be missing :D
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Needless to say I'm pleased!!! The engine is out and tomorrow night its old gearbox off + if possible new one and new clutch on. Then its cambelt *gulps*

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Fun fun fun!
 
Ooooh cool, £50 for a gearbox that's a bit cheap!! I'd love to have time/money/effort to properly overhaul a car.

Well it was cheap for a reason. The guy is having my old box, I said to him "as far as I know its just a diff"

"ok cool, straight swap plus some pennys?"

Me - "ace"
 
Have you checked the one you've swapped to has actually got some cogs in it? :D

Nope, we can only assume so :D

i am disappointed, if the engine is out there has to be a picture of you standing in the engine bay

I'll get one taken today as I'll be in it cleaning all the mucky CV grease off.

Your car kept falling into bits before you done that if you had just left it i'm sure it would have fallen into that state by itself Jake :D

Quite possibly! :p - The car has been in need of some TLC for some time now, so it's getting the full works. Managed to sauce a replacement passenger door handle to! :p

Don't you need a special kit to change the cambelt on the KV6 engine?

I know nothing about them, it was just something I read when looking up how much it would cost.

Yes you do, and we have borrowed this kit from a different garage. Otherwise the kit is normally £300 to buy on its own.

For the love of god this time please put the front bumper back on minus the huge panel gaps (if thats possible).

Oh believe me the panels gaps thing REALLY bugs me...the car is going to be jigged whilst it's in this state which should help with the panel gap problem.

He won't fit...

Yeh I will :o

And where is my mention? I spent a weekend driving you about as the drive shaft didn't turn up...gimp.

Oh yeah. I forgot...

Rob turned up, willing to do what Ben did but the driveshaft didn't actually turn up so he stayed the weekend and kept offering to take me out in the 328i like a chav to show me how good rwd was :p
 
Werent you on about track prepping it or something.

Perfect time to put a LSD in there.....

Eventually it will be a track only car because if I sold it I wouldn't get anything for it. And I can't see it going as it's just too much fun to be honest :)

And if I had the cash an LSD would be going in there yes.
 
Cool its the main thing that bothers me about these, even though you get a lot of LOLZ Rover jokes etc i think these look quite tidy so its a shame to wreck that with huge panel gaps.

Indeed...but hopefully it's something that can be sorted, or atleast made better :)
 
Could your hideously bent front end have caused the diff/driveshaft to be misaligned compared to how they are designed to be and the put uneccessary load on them?

Possibly, but its also possible it took a hit in the accident and its taken this long to show itself...but its also possible that ragging the daylights out of it did the damage, who knows :p

I'd sell it after fixing it.

Logical thing to do, yes. But I won't get anything for it, and I'm not putting all this time and effort in just to get rid of it.

[TW]Fox;14246464 said:
Also how did you manage to find a gearbox with '40k motorway miles' on a car which was at best 5 years old? Who only does motorway miles but only ends up doing under 10k a year?

It was barely used? Can only go by what I'm told. I didn't chain the guy to a chair, shine a light in his eye and slap him about a bit :p, just took his word for it. These gearboxes are very solid anyway so I'm not that fussed if its more.

I am with wicksta, fix it, then sell it. If you want another one buy another one :)

As I said above I won't get anything for it, and I don't want to get rid of it. Nor do I have the money to buy another one.
 
This is exactly what I said when the drive shaft first went...wouldn't believe me mind.

No, you said the 2nd one went due to the car being bent. My argument was the first one lasted 22k miles/a year in the cars current state so I doubt the 2nd one only lasted 2 weeks due to it.
 
[TW]Fox;14246589 said:
I think the sensible thing to do might be to scrap the whole car - who knows what else its hiding after you crashed it (oh wait sorry your brother nicked it and crashed it, is that like the oncoming car when you crashed the Astra :p) and then had the repair bodged :pp

*remembers a specific post where Fox said he wouldn't mention the astra anymore* :p

I actually didn't crash this one, I haven't hit anything for a while now \o/

You'll end up throwing more at it than buying another! Get rid of it :p

Naaa....keeps things interesting :D
 
Update:

Tonight we removed the gearbox and clutch

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And started to removed the belt and covers for the cambelt on the other side

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Now I'm pretty convinced that the cambelt is simply not doable without removing the engine. It's got so much in the way in the first place, then you've gotta run the belt etc.

Either way, PITA...

We got a bit further than pictured, but my phone memory was full and we were both shattered so just came home.

Rock on tomorrow :)
 
I thought your family ran a breakers yard?

It's a salvage yard. Breakers break the cars and sell them for parts, salvage sell the cars as seen. And it's been a while since anything sheddified has been in to be honest.
 
Have you seen this video on youtube? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fFx8SPiTSc

It should help you, I think it's the KV6 that went into the 800's but it still applies to your engine.

Also you should change the water pump as well.

Yep, seen and watched that, thanks though :)

And yeh we realised the waterpump today so ordered it and will be here Monday, so holding off on the car until then. But we've started to do the cambelt none the less :)
 
The car is being/has been jigged today if I remember correctly, so should actually be straight and back on the road very soon...everyone get off the roads. :p

Basically :p

After we had done all the work, I drove it home with such a grin, not fast. Just enjoying I had it back...4 miles down the road, it did another driveshaft :(

So it was dropped off to be jigged late last week, got a phone call yesterday saying the work would be done today, so hoping for a call tomorrow or Monday :)

Regardless I'm taking a replacement driveshaft to him tomorrow and going to say "these break when I turn left, thanks :D" and then leave.
 
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