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My Coolermaster horror story

Discussion in 'General Hardware' started by bahnburner, Jan 23, 2019.

  1. bahnburner

    Associate

    Joined: Jan 23, 2019

    Posts: 2

    I just want to put my story out there in hopes that someone can learn from my experience and avoid the same fate.

    Back in May I decided my Mac Mini was no longer sufficient as a Plex server, and that it was time to build a new one. I had been reading about the awesomeness that is used LGA1366 Xeon cpus, and decided to take that route. I bought a used SuperMicro X8DTi-F board on eBay as well as 2 x5650 processors, a pair of cpu coolers, a 120gb SSD for the OS and 12 4gb sticks of ECC DDR3. I figured I’d throw my current HDDs in there for storage until I was ready to start adding more drives and finally go RAID5. It was going to be a sweet 12 core beast for pretty cheap.

    Unless you’re super into server boards, you may not be aware that the X8DTi-F is an E-ATX Mobo. We’re talking full the 12x13” standard size, not the 12x10.7” size that Asus and Gigabyte use for some of their gaming boards. I knew I was going to need a big case, since I’d have to house not only the board, but a bunch of drives, too. After browsing Newegg for far too long at work, I found the CoolerMaster Master Box 5. It was advertised as supporting full size E-ATX boards, and had the option to add additional hard drive cages (up to 4 for a total of 8 mechanical drives). So, I ordered the case, and planned to buy the additional cases once I was ready to expand (read: Once the wife would let me by more drives).

    That point came just after Christmas. I picked up a few 8tb easystores to shuck while they were on sale and quickly realized I had an issue. I didn’t notice until that point, but the motherboard hangs about an inch over where the HDD cages would mount. ****. I reached out to @coolermaster on twitter in hopes they could point me in the right direction and I was just overlooking something obvious.

    Do what now? I quickly checked the listing on NewEgg. Motherboard Compatibility: Micro ATX / ATX / Mini-ITX / E-ATX. Ok, maybe they were mistaken. I responded with a screenshot of their marketing materials showing it clearly printed as supporting up to E-ATX.


    Yes, Coolermaster support suggested I shove an 3.5” HDD into an SSD bracket. *facepalm*

    I questioned how it could be unofficial when it was printed all over the marketing material on every Master Box 5 listing on NewEgg and Microcenter, and discussed in several reviews. After several days without a reply, and a few friendly reminders that my issue was still outstanding, they finally responded that they were forwarding my issue to management, and that I should hear something soon. I got a response a couple days later stating that they weren’t responsible because I purchased the case through a 3rd party. This was an interesting response considering I had already provided them a copy of my order summary from Newegg showing that the case was shipped and sold directly by Newegg, which I reminded them of at this point.

    At this point, NewEgg reached out to volunteer to help, but since they weren’t directly responsible the most they were willing to do was provide an out of warranty return without a restocking fee. While generous, this would still leave me paying more for something my current case should already do. I will say, the Newegg reps were wonderful to work with and really sympathetic to my situation. They reached out to Coolermaster on my behalf and confirmed that Coolermaster removed E-ATX support at some point after my purchase and never bothered to notify them. On 1/16/19, they went ahead and updated their product listing to prevent this issue from recurring. (screenshot) SIDE NOTE: Microcenter still shows the original marketing material with full E-ATX support (screenshot).

    So, on my way home from work that evening, I decided to call Coolermaster support and see if I could explain myself and get a response in a reasonable timeframe. I talk to a rep named “Stephen” who seems super understanding. I give him the whole story and advised that he would talk to his manager and see what they could do. I ask for an ETA and am told that “everyone’s in a meeting right now, and all day tomorrow, and we’re only working a half day on Friday, and... (I zoned out at this point) …on Monday, so probably Tuesday I’ll have an update for you.” Sure, whatever, it may be a week away, but it will be an answer. An end to my story. A resolution.

    That was sent Friday (SWEET! 4 DAYS EARLY!) at 12:30pm, probably on his way out of the office for his half day. FUN! I quickly responded by reminding him that it was still plastered all over Newegg’s product pages until I brought it to their attention 2 days prior, and reminded them that it’s still on Microcenter’s product page.

    I’ve still yet to receive a response to my email. I tried to reach out to support by phone on Monday, but the number rings into full voicemail box for “Michael Cohen” and immediately disconnects. I finally gave up and contacted sales, where a rep answered immediately and greeted me with “Coolermaster Support.” I explained my situation and was advised that he didn’t have the ability to do anything to help, I asked to speak with someone above him who may be able to help and was transferred to another person who never provided his name. He explained that when Coolermaster was designing my case, they never actually thought anyone would try to install a 12x13” eATX case, even though they advertised that they supported it. He then tried to tell me that Newegg hasn’t carried the case in years, so I must have bought it from a third party. I tried to explain that I had sent screenshots of my order summary showing that it was sold direct by Newegg, but was interrupted and told it had to be a marketplace sale. I asked him to talk to the previous rep and look at the screenshots I had sent, but was ignored. I tried to again state my case, but the employee slammed the phone down, hanging up the line.

    So, at this point, I’ve given up on trying to get Coolermaster to stand behind their products and marketing materials and do anything to resolve my issue and will probably end up returning the case to Newegg and buying a Phanteks Enthoo Lux. I just wanted to share this story in hopes of saving even just one person from buying from Coolermaster and getting screwed over by them and their terrible customer support. BTW, props to you for reading this whole thing.

    **TL;DR: Bought a Coolermaster case based on advertised features. Case doesn’t actually support advertised features. Coolermaster doesn’t care, lied to me, then ghosted me. Don’t buy **** from Coolermaster.**
     
  2. Rroff

    Man of Honour

    Joined: Oct 13, 2006

    Posts: 62,158

    Where is the horror story? they overstated the capabilities of the product, retracted it when it was discovered and the retailer offered you a full refund before you'd even built the system. It sucks but it happens - I have sympathy but not like you've been left out of pocket.
     
  3. bahnburner

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    Joined: Jan 23, 2019

    Posts: 2

    System's been build since the day the case came in. I was installing a raid when I discovered that the specs were BS. They never retracted the overstated specs. The specs were corrected when I pointed out the issue to Newegg. I'll now be paying more for a case that actually does what this one was advertised as having.
     
  4. Vince

    Man of Honour

    Joined: Oct 30, 2003

    Posts: 7,450

    Location: Essex

    Surely with the amount of space in that thing you can just bolt a hdd cage in it somewhere? Is this really a massive showstopper? Personally I'd bodge em in there and find a way to secure them in. I'd also recommend in future having a plan of what you want out of it before engaging with a company, knowing what you would deem acceptable before laying it down and speaking to the vendor is always useful.

    Let's be honest they were never going to come up with some magic fix so if you can't mod it/ bodge it then it's game over.
     
  5. orbitalwalsh

    Capodecina

    Joined: Dec 1, 2015

    Posts: 15,165

    @bahnburner

    E-ATX is now unoffically the standard x299/x399 and slagship x*70/z*70/90 extended ATX Boards

    techically E-ATX is meant to be the Size of your SuperMicro X8DTi-F , but with mainstream consumer cases - they state E-ATX to accept non server boards

    Gigabyte Aorus z390 Xtreme
    SuperMicro X8DTi-F

    that 60mm extension causes a LOT of issues with midi cases that house 'e-atx' boards
     
  6. MartinPrince

    Hitman

    Joined: Aug 14, 2018

    Posts: 746

    Generally, joining a forum to rant about a company because of a bad experience with one of their products won't gain much traction. It definitely won't, as you implore, stop people buying **** from Coolermaster.

    Checking the UK listing of the CoolerMaster Master Box 5 non of the main sellers mention E-ATX in the compatibility so this is a uniquely US problem. The fact you were offered a refund without the standard restocking fee (another thing particular to the US as we generally don't have restocking fees here) seemed a fair an equitable response as your issue is primarily with the reseller, Newegg in this case.

    As an aside I've put a server dual cPU motherboard in an old Coolermaster case, though it was not on the supported list so I had to do a bit of case modding to get it sorted.