My first attempt at gig photography

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On Thursday night I was asked to take photos of my mates new band (Funkweasel). I've always wanted to try this, so happily said I'd come along. The first thing I quickly realised is that it is extremely difficult in a tiny venue like this. Great place, very friendly. It was at the Barley mow pub, in Oswestry.

Couldn't use a flash, so decided to take the Sigma 12-24, Canon 100mmL and the Sigma 50mm1.4 (this lens saved the night). Having never done this before, I figured that these would be the range needed in a pub, but had no idea what size the pub was, so it was a total guess.

On arriving there, the room was packed to the point where I couldn't take any photos for the first half, but luckily the kids that were there all had to leave, so I got the only spot up front. It was annoying as the bassist/saxophonist was behind the speaker to my right, so I got hardly any shots of him, and a lot didn't come out as I'd expected.

My 60D did okay, but I really want something that is better in low light, so I'm definitely making a switch to the 5Dmkiii as soon as it's affordable for me. The other thing though, is that this showed that I need to purchase some very expensive glass to take photos exactly how I like. The 12-24mki is obviously not for that sort of event, and was very difficult to get a shot I like. I deleted most on the spot immediately after taking them, and only kept 2 so I could give an idea of the space. The recently purchased 100mm 2.8L was pretty much useless as only one band member was far enough away for it to be of any use (as I mentioned, it was a tiny venue; I was about 5ft from the band). Thankfully my Sigma 50mm1.4 was the saviour of the night. I always rave about it, but for that light level it was perfect. I was forced to take 90% of the photos at 6400 as it was very dark and had flashing lights, which in the small venue completely and constantly changed the rooms light levels, and as a result some came out looking rough as a bears bum. The bar lights and lights over a dart board were also being turned on and off at request of the band, as it was too dark in one corner.

The main things I learned that night is that taking photos in a small venue with constantly changing light, in a tiny space makes manually shot photos virtually impossible due to the amount of movement, unless you're happy to take a load of photos and have a lot of time, and wait for the singer to move back to where you've set to (the sod! :D).

Anyway, boring waffle aside, here's a small selection (from 53 on flickr):


Hail the overlord by Niall Allen, on Flickr

The above shot, Tom moved at the last second, but I liked the pose, so kept it. I was focused on his eyes, which is where is elbow is :D


Rich by Niall Allen, on Flickr


IMG_1088 by Niall Allen, on Flickr


IMG_1152 by Niall Allen, on Flickr

Rest are HERE

Oh, and drinking lots of beer, staying out until 1am, then going to work the next morning is not a good idea. I was so hungover yesterday :D
 
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I'd definitely hang fire on a 5Diii and "very expensive glass". It's not necessary IMO, especially as a beginner. You're better off grabbing something like a 28mm 1.8 which would be miles better in that sort of situation at a fraction of the price.

I'm trying to figure out why some of the images look very noisy. Are you cropping these significantly or adding lots of sharpening?

Generally they are not bad for a first attempt and you have some good ideas. Pay attention to the edges of the frame and try to avoid cutting people off at fingers, elbows, wrists etc. Also pay attention to the guitar as if it was another limb - keep the headstock either fully in or out.

Don't spend all your money on new gear!
 
Not a fan of the B&W shots personally as there isn't a big enough difference between the shadows and highlights to really make a good B&W conversion. Due to that, they look grey and very flat to me. The colour ones however look far better (imo), but I agree you need to watch what you are framing and take care with it as chopping bits of people out detracts from the images (unless its people who aren't the focal point and who are blurred anyway).

I'd also hold off on the camera upgrade until you definitely can't cope with that bodies performance. The focus looks fine and the noise isn't as bad as I was expecting so you've either coped with it well due to proper exposure, or dealt with it in post!
 
Yeah that's the trouble I was having. It was so close, it was virtually impossible not to cut parts off. If an image is cropped its only slightly and it's due to cables or speakers in the way. Like I say, it was tiny in there. Also the noise is due to shooting at 6400 ISO. The odd shot that is more noisy had sharpening, like the one with the 12-24. Also where I was stood is the only place I could go, so angles were extremely limited.

Oh, the bassist shots are only in there as I didn't want to leave him out on the bands page. If it was my choice I'd have deleted that one as you say, the bassist moved so I was suddenly looking down the neck at the worst possible angle.

The noise from the 60D in low light is pretty bad :(
 
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I think the way you sum up drinking lots of beer kinda mislead you to taking any good photos. You can't expect to be taken seriously, get great shots and consume alcohol at the same time. They don't match.

I'm sure other photographers who are 'onsite' working get offered a drink by the clients and kindly said no because they want to produce the best shots available and be satisfied with themselves of the work.

What was the shutter speed you going at on these photos? What were you using as well to process these photos?
 
Well I hardly think having a drink after an event matters! I think you're mistakenly under the impression that I did this in a professional capacity. I didn't, I went to watch and my mate asked if I could bring my camera. Nothing more to it :)

Exif is on Flickr, and I used Lightroom 4 to process.
 
I think you were just unlucky with the locale. It's not the most picturesque of backdrops!

Were you able to use flash at all? Some off camera flash might have given the pictures a bit of "Pop"!

I'd say work on a tighter edit of the pictures you have. There is a lot of similar photos in your edit and side shots almost leaning to the back of someones head does nothing for me. As said though, work on a tighter edit of like 10 and i think the overall impression of the photos will be raised! Keep it up though! :)

I see you tried multiple different approaches with editing and shooting and that really is great! You've tried things just to see and that's all about learning, be it black and white, slow shutter speeds, details, etc...

EDIT - The only time I've ever done anything like this is using B&W Delta 3200 Film pushed to 6400+. I think film is MUCH better for black and white due to it's tonality and dynamic range. It also limits you to just spraying with photos so you pick your shots.
 
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You're not wrong. My dad was a massive b&w film photographer (in the sense he raved about it). To this day, I prefer the old film style, but he gave all that equipment to my sister after leaving it in a shed for 10 years :-/

I processed them in a variety of ways due to the boring repetitiveness of the images. I was actually using aperture priority mainly with the 50mm. I was going to switch to shutter priority to try that, but on the LCD the images looked better than they actually were, so sadly I didn't see how grainy they were until back at home.

Still, I enjoyed doing it and have asked them to let me know when they play again do I can have another go. I might pick up the 85mm 1.8 and the lens mentioned further up the thread, too :)
 
The 85mm 1.8 is a bit of a no-brainer lens so I would definitely consider it a low-risk purchase. If you stick to the classic EF mount lenses then even if you do change your body further down the line you'll be good to go. Just be thankful you have 6400 ISO at all I would kill for it sometimes with my 5D!
 
#4 really. I'd struggle to "get" the other three (haven't looked on Flickr) due to some difficult cropping.

Noise as exhibited isn't really an issue for me: you either capture the moment or you don't. As previously noted, you have some great ideas, but the framing (and point of focus for the first, in particular) isn't the best.

Appreciate it wasn't in a professional capacity, and it's all irrelevant if the band are happy with the output! :)
 
Yeah, I didn't choose the photos to put on here as the best, just a random selection. There are better and worse on flickr :D
 
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