My first conroe:overclock sudgestions...

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Hi everyone how you all doing?

Built a Conroe e6600 (not sure its week etc) bought from ocuk of course..

Aw9d Max board:

Corsair Dominator pc8500 C5 (still got it set at 5-5-5-15)

Galaxy 850w psu...

Edit: Cpu cooler is a BigTyphoon
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Temp on the general cpu guru toolkit is reading 32 on a non humid evening to 34-35 fluctuating..

Got the machine running stock install speeds etc right now, guru says clock is

266mhz

memory is i think recall set to SPD not CPU .. its probably on a 4:5 ratio i think..

for my first ever time clocking, (ive read the sticky posts and then gone to other links from that one etc, mind blowing for me as i worry about everything i just bought heheh)

Just wondering if anyone with similiar setup, or can give me a few things to adjust primarily just to get to maybe 3ghz safely that would be great, the thing im totaly unsure of is getting the memory to be at the best possible speed, as it is i believe 1066mhz which would show as what ? 500 something or should for optimum in the bios ?

see at a loss lol, im sure someone can help you all seem pretty much clued up it seems :)

run some tools etc to show basic setup:

http://img247.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11112006121422dg2.jpg

Thanks in advance,,

James..
 
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Insane.....

49 reads and not one bit of help ? Hmmm the "ask away everyone here will help you" line in the sticky seems to be missplaced :P

anyway ill wait longer i guess, <<< impatient son of a b***
 
I think the problem is... its a bit difficult to pull a specific question out of your page of text and answer it...

one suggestion:

make sure you have a copy of memtest 86+ either on a bootable floppy or bootable CD (if its not included in your BIOS) and run the memory through that for atleast 3-4 complete passes...

also use intel TAT or core temp to get the CPU core temps - don't use/trust anything else as they will probably be under-reading by 7-15C...
 
Interesting, i dont see much problem with the general question, but thanks for pointing it out as you see it..

Memtest im not sure ive not seen it in bios called that, id like to know if possible why it needs to be on a bootable format...?

I think you are saying its not run in windows? its done from a boot up then ?

cheers,

James
 
sorry what I meant was - you have a lot of text with various questions embedded in it a lot of people aren't going to bother reading through it all in detail and seperate out the questions... you'd prolly get more replies if you summarised at the start or end the questions you want answered then people can refer to the body of text for specific details... and a lot of general overclocking tips can be found from searching the forums for specifics on your CPU, motherboard, etc.

as to memtest yes it runs outside of windows...

http://www.memtest.org/

a few motherboards, some DFI models specifically, have memtest in the BIOS which makes it far easier... most however don't, by creating a floppy disc, CD-ROM or bootable USB disc with memtest 86+ on it and setting it as the first boot device in the BIOS, memtest will be started up instead of windows -to put it simply this allows the program exclusive access to your memory without having to worry about the OS protecting areas, programs dynamically increasing/decreasing their allocation, etc.

One of the most important factors of a stable overclock is the memory integrity - if your memory is overclocked too far/settings incorrect, then you will get corruption of the data in the memory which can result in crashes, random reboots, downloaded files being corrupt, etc.

Generally 3-4 complete passes of memtest86+ will show up any errors in the memory settings/overclock and give the memory time to warmup - as heat is a major factor in memory failure.
 
Ah nice info thanks,

Its like a minefield any game i play right now its fine underload, if i play say ghost recon advanced warfighter, my psu does the flashing red light and 3 beep tone, which manual says fan speeds on psu is either <450rpm or the fans or fan is not working..

well the fans are working lol and i only get this so far with GRAWF...

this worries me, its a new Enermax 850watt.. running 7950gtx - 2 wester digi raptors, one x-fi card , 2 sticks of dominator 8500, one nec dual layer drive and a floppy.. im not sure why if the fans are spinning fine that its saying they aint or they are slow?

ive checked the guru software and made sure there is no special warnings, but i dont think that app can have anything to do with the psu anyway...

would there be anything on the bios regarding power for psu etc ? that might cause the load to give warning or something.., ill take a look anyway but maybe someone else knows or has come across this..

cheers,

James..
 
Have you tried playing GRAW in a window with the guru up so you can monitor the voltages while you play?

also does your PSU have a tachometer lead for the fan that you can plug into one of the fan headers on the motherboard to monitor it? a few do... it will be a small plastic 3 pin connector with a black lead on one side and a yellow lead on the other and the middle connector not connected.

EDIT: I _think_ with your PSU is the FM cable - dark red color with a black and a grey or yellow lead... but don't quote me on that the manual will probably tell you...

EDIT2: Assuming you don't already have this setup... on page 6 of the manual there is a lead marked as the FAN RPM connector - plug this into either the NB or case fan header on your motherboard - if they aren't already in use - then in your monitoring software/guru go to the fan section and enable monitoring that header if its not already... then play GRAW in a window and watch what the fan is actually reading... tho this is supposedly the 8cm fan so not sure if this will be what you are wanting any how :s
 
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Hi thanks again for your time , most appreciated...

That lead for the 8cm is on auxfan1 it apparently is 1400-3500rpm but its showing 1500rpm constant.. ive not put load on it though so in theory it says its auto controlled? so i guess that if it has load it should change its speed itself upto the max of 3500 per manual ?

I set the guru monitor to optimise that auxfan1 slot etc so im gonna run some other games first like say X3 reunion on full settings, which doesnt caues the beep and light to flash etc.. to see first what this rpm does in the monitor, hmm not sure i can run x3 in window will have to check i guess..

If not i will go straight in and try grawf with the guru set to always on top

cheers, will let you know what it shows..

james..
 
With regards to overclocking here are some settings that may be of use to you -

EIST - Disabled
C1E - Disabled
CPU Voltage - 1.35v
DRAM Voltage - 2.2v
DRAM Speed - 667
FSB - 300
MCH Voltage - 1.3v

Try that :) then increase the FSB as you go, you could set the RAM to 800mhz if you like (very good RAM) and it will still be good for 350-380 FSB.
 
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Thanks on the settings there :)

as regards to the fan speed warning thingy, i played grawf in window mode and the fan was 1500 > 1620 max usually on 1550 which is pretty standard idle, so its not taxing the psu it seems...

Anyhow there was no psu beeps or led's going off this time, so i thought ok weird lets go back into full screen, and there was no more warning bleeps or led's? go figure..

I have no clue why it didnt happen that time but hey thats fine by me.. There is a warning like i got in the manual stating that the psu is being UNDERATED where by its not being used to full potential and drawing only 50w cause of lack of peripherals plugged in. lol new one on me but still i have plenty plugged in..

So ill have to just keep monitoring that if it comes back etc...

On the clock settings are u saying my ram is not good ram ? as per ** bracketed comment? im not too worried about timings etc cause with gaming its not really an issue.. but still if u recomend me trying still with pc8500 dominator ram then ill give it a whirl..

by the way 2.2v for ram voltage? that ok not 2.1 ? something i read somewhere again hehe..

cheers for your efforts folks...

james.
 
I meant what you have is very good RAM so running at at 800mhz even before overclocking won't be an issue for you :) AFAIK the RAM scales quite well with voltage I have seen it tested up to 1150+ mhz with 2.4v.
 
yeah im pretty thick on this stuff sorry :/

what i was worried about was, is u say i can use 800 before i even overclock that would what in effect show in bios 400 something in reality on the ram ?

If thats the case and the FSB is a lot lower like 266 then surely the ram will be playing catch up to the transfer to and from components no ? 266 fsb/400 something on ram .. hmmm not sure what ratio that would show now they really do confuse me lol..

thanks for clearing the good ram bit up..

cheers,

James...
 
The RAM would be running faster than the FSB, a 2:3 (FSB:RAM) ratio. So with the FSB at 300 the RAM should run at 900. FSB at 400 the RAM at 1200 etc.
 
in the bios it will list some ram speeds in mhz 533 667 800. these rams speeds are what the ram will be if there is no overclocking at all. if you over clock then these numbers will be wrong but the numbers represent ratios to the standard fsb of the cpu. soo in easy terms :D

533= 1:1 ratio
667= 4:5 ratio
800= 2:3 ratio

now if you overclock to 3.2ghz wich would be a fsb of 355 on your cpu then the numbers would be

533 = 1:1 = 710 mhz overclocked
667 = 4:5 = 887 mhz overclocked
800 = 2:3 = 1065 mhz overclocked


i just overclocked my e6700 on my aw9dmax board went from 266 fsb to 320fsb :D just typed in 320 into bios and voila :D
 
ok just done a clock:

External clock 355mhz
Multiplier X 9

NB strap PSB 1066
DRAM Spec DDR2 800 (2:3) giving 1066mhz i think

Voltage control:

Cpu core 1.3V
DDR2 Sdram Voltage 2.10V
MCH & PCIe Voltage 1.5V

i cant go lower to mch 1.3v as the guy earlier mentioned it starts at 1.5v only is this ok ?

In bios temp reading im getting cpu temps of 38 sometimes 39

case is low at 28 and rest is between 34-37


Your views please ?

cheers,

James....

EDIT: bugger it didnt boot past logo with del to entet bios lol

sat on an error of c3 or somthing, reset and its working again, hmm not sure what voltage is needed increased to get it to post?

anyone ? heheheh or should i try lowering fsb a bit and see if it does it again...
 
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ok i tried fsb 299 think it was gives me 2.7ghz clock..

let it contrl speed of ram, gave me it as if i was using ddr2 750mhz i think it was..

stock voltages seem so far ok for a boot, would love to keep pushing it but it seems the voltages given dont do the trick for a higher fsb, maybe i should try 300fsb like he said .... hmmm decisions lol scary this but fun lol...

cheers..

james.
 
oh thanks for that fast response lol ... ok great ill do that next time, i dropped my cmos jumper lol into a mass of psu wires lol,, damn thats annoying..

james...


Edit: whats odd though is looking at the guru tool it shows ddr2 voltage limits 1.44v to 2.16v ? any cause for concern ? Or is it able to be adusted for higher limits etc... think u can do that by enabling stuff in bios to allow changes..
 
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ok this aint to bigger overclock but my max board with a e6700 i have only tried one overclock so far and worked straight away maybe work for you on your 6600

basically i put fsb to 320mhz, mem ratio 4:5 at 2.1v 4-4-4-12 timings. i did not change any other voltage settings or anything else and it worked straight away :) havent run them tests people use but have been using pc for 3 days wth a couple of 8 hour gaming sessions in there and all is well.
 
hi thanks for the input,,

no its not a large clock hehe, someone hear a chicken ? lol

320 huh seems small as well its what i was going to do after my 355 failure but opted or even lower lol.. the timings have any effect on voltage ? cause mine are 5-5-5-15 if i lowered them to 4-4-4-12 would that need voltage chagnes as per 320 clock on standard voltages you are using etc...

I guess your own timings were 4-4-4-12 as per stock ram spec ?

Im gonna have another go soon, but ive been playing medieval total war 3 full settings no slowdown no issuse :) love this rig hehehe..

Cheers,

James...
 
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