My first site

Phaser · 15 Jun 2006 at 23:15

Hi all.

http://www.yorkshirejunkies.co.uk/

One of the first "proper" sites i've ever done. Really really proud of myself.

Theres a few bits which I still need to sort out but it's getting there.

I've learnt quite a bit from doing this, such as PHP include files and so on. Really simple, but you pick up things much easier and faster when you're actually doing it.

One thing - the site is designed in XHTML/CSS but quite a lot of the content involves tables. Any way of getting round this?

Comments and feedback would be great, I don't think its amazing but hey it's probably the 2nd site i've ever completed from start to finish.

Thanks.

the_box · 15 Jun 2006 at 23:36

Phaser said:
Hi all.

http://www.yorkshirejunkies.co.uk/

One of the first "proper" sites i've ever done. Really really proud of myself. Theres a few bits which I still need to sort out but it's getting there.

I've learnt quite a bit from doing this, such as PHP include files and so on. Really simple, but you pick up things much easier and faster when you're actually doing it.

One thing - the site is designed in XHTML/CSS but quite a lot of the content involves tables. Any way of getting round this?

Comments and feedback would be great, I don't think its amazing but hey it's probably the 2nd site i've ever completed from start to finish.

Thanks.

not bad for your first attempt! better than my first attempt. well done

Augmented · 15 Jun 2006 at 23:38

Phaser said:
One thing - the site is designed in XHTML/CSS but quite a lot of the content involves tables. Any way of getting round this?

If the content you're marking up requires a table to display it, then there is absolutely nothing wrong with using them. To not use one would be a bad use of markup. If there's a repeating collection of data with common headings, then use a table.

Just ensure you are marking up your tables in the most accessible and user-friendly fashion you can, that is appropriate for the readership of your site. An excellent article on the topic is over at 456 Berea Street.

iCraig · 15 Jun 2006 at 23:43

Phaser said:
One thing - the site is designed in XHTML/CSS but quite a lot of the content involves tables. Any way of getting round this?

It depends on the content. Don't forget, tables are not a banned element, they are just commonly mis-used. They are designed for presenting tabular data. Football charts, recipes, anything that requires rows and columns to have the information displayed properly.

Phaser said:
Comments and feedback would be great, I don't think its amazing but hey it's probably the 2nd site i've ever completed from start to finish.

It's simple and to the point. The graffiti style logo kind of conflicts with the organised neatness of the pages. A clash of styles almost.

The menu is a little boring and doesn't really encourage me to navigate around much, but it's isn't bad really.

It's a very strong site, and you have gotten away with a black background quite nicely. I see a lot of dark sites that look very poor, you've done well to keep colour in the site whilst still having the clean, modern look that black envokes.

Like you said yourself, theres a few niggles here and there I could go into more detail about, but I think you should be quite happy with what you have so far.

Nice work.

Sic · 16 Jun 2006 at 00:28

i really like it. like craig said, not a lot of people can get away with dark websites, but you've done very well there. i like the menu, but i think you could do so much more with it. i'd personally like to see the background of the button go the same colour as the text, and have the text go black when you mouse over...think that'd look great.

i actually like the banner...the simplicity of the site sets it off well, and it's in context.

i might be biased, because i love graf art...there's not enough round here, and what i do see, i photograph and track more down

the only thing i don't like is the "Bookmark Us" and "Email a Friend" links. for me, they're so last season (ooooh, scandalous!!) and i dont think there's any need for them. feel free to agree/disagree, but that's the only thing i could see that i don't like!! had to point it out

Phaser · 16 Jun 2006 at 07:36

Wow, wasn't expecting that much good feedback!

Yes, I think the black/red/white work well together, the website/forum keep the same consistent colour scheme.

Regarding the navigation, I thought i'd start off simple and then I can always add a few things in here and there. I was thinking perhaps a background image for the menu headings but what you suggested Sic sounds great.

Augmented, i'l take a look at that link mate. I've always used divs and css as much as possible so i'm not too sure on tables etc. Got a feeling some of them might just be thrown together quickly so i'l go over them.

Cheers all for the feedback.

Gman · 16 Jun 2006 at 11:56

looking good mate layout and colour works well.

one concern is this bit of code in your footer

Code:

<!--Web design 
    by <a href="http://www.dziremedia.co.uk" class="linkfooter" target="new">DZire Media.</a>-->

now seen as dziremedia is a web design company, that does tend to flag up a few questions

Don't want to point fingers or anything as you might have a perfectly valid reason to have commented out a link to another company in your source code.

Phaser · 16 Jun 2006 at 12:44

DZire Media is what im looking to start up.

However the current site is just a page with some links on. Want to get up at least a holding page before I show the link on the website.

Hawk Tuah · 16 Jun 2006 at 13:39

Good answer.

Phaser · 16 Jun 2006 at 14:03

www.dziremedia.co.uk - Look at the links for the radio, DZire FM.

f you go to www.yorkshirejunkies.co.uk and see the radio player that is feeding from the same stream etc.

xirokx · 17 Jun 2006 at 02:21

great site looks fab

Phaser · 25 Jun 2006 at 10:01

Sic said:
i really like it. like craig said, not a lot of people can get away with dark websites, but you've done very well there. i like the menu, but i think you could do so much more with it. i'd personally like to see the background of the button go the same colour as the text, and have the text go black when you mouse over...think that'd look great.

I thought i'd have a go at doing this.

http://yorkshirejunkies.co.uk/ - Hasn't turned out right though. It seems to be pushing each <li> onto 2 lines?

#nav {
text-decoration:none;
width: 200px;
height: 200px;
float:left;
clear:none; }

div#nav ul{
padding:0;
}

#nav ul a{
width:200px;
font-size:100%;
text-decoration:none;
color:#49C2F7;}

#nav li
{line-height: 25px;
list-style-type: none;
border-bottom-width: 1px;
border-bottom-style: solid;
border-bottom-color: #666666;
text-transform: capitalize;}

#nav li a {
padding-left: 10px;
display:block;
width:auto;
font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11px;
font-size: 11px;
color: #49C2F7;}

#nav li a:hover {
padding-left: 10px;
background: #49C2F7;
color: #fff;}

Any idea? Cheers.