My Planned £2000 PC System -Thoughts/Input/Opinions?

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Hey guys,

Well I am buying a new PC soon, in the next few weeks. It will be built by myself and the components brought individually.

Information:

Budget = £2000
Usage = Gaming, Performance (Using multiple Virtual Machines)
Wants = Intel Quad Core, Nvidia Graphics, 1080p (24inch Monitor), OC Ability

Ok, so above is a simple explanation of what I want and the money I have t do it, Now below is what I have come up with and reasons why I chose, I would like your views on this and tips/hints as I have no great experiance in this, first time I have built a system myself :).

Monitor

Dell Ultrasharp 2408WFP 24" Widescreen LCD Monitor - Midnight Grey
£458.24 inc VAT
Link

(Chose this because as I said, I want 1080p (1900x1200) playback, DELL because I heard nothing but good things about modern DELL monitors especially this one)

CPU

Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 LGA775 'Yorkfield' 2.66GHz 12MB-cache (1333FSB) Processor - Retail
Link
or
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 LGA775 'Yorkfield' 2.83GHz 12MB-cache (1333FSB) Processor - Retail
Link

Best CPU

(Now I first looked into with the QX9650, because I thought with £2000 I could buy more or less the best everything, but this isnt the case at all, I then found that these two new processors were coming out using the new 45nm and Yorkfield, as well as having the same 12MBL2 cache as the QX9650 just lower speed, so I thought maybe I could buy this, save £200-300 and then clock it to 3.2ghz or 3.4ghz which is faster than the upcoming QX9750)

Motherboard

Asus Maximus Extreme Intel X38 (Socket 775) PCI-Express DDR3 Motherboard
£199.74


(Right, Well I was all set to buy a Striker II motherboard with the 780i chipset, but I was told by many and read some reviews which stated it was overpriced and the only really unique good thing was the SLI, which in my eyes is overkill if you have a good card to start with, So I looked into the Intel upcoming x48 chipset and was set on that but then realized that the only real differences are

-10 Gigabit LAN
-Removal of LPT PS2 ports
-Wi Fi

To be honest I don't like the idea of Wi Fi on my motherboard, 10 gigabit to me is also overkill and keeping the PS2 and LPT might not be so bad, so i checked out x38 and found this one, I wanted DDR3 to be future proof I guess, and now it is a time where its good to buy some DDR3.

PSU (Power Supply Unit)

Tagan 1100W Modular BZ Piperock Series


(I chose Tagen because most my friends who build PC's say Tagen are the best make for different reasons, I chose the BZ series as it seems to be the most current and 1100w should easily last me even if I did crossfire)

Memory

OCZ 4GB DDR3 PC3-10666C6 1333MHz ReaperX (2x2GB) Dual Channel DDR3
LInk

or
OCZ 4GB PC3-10666 Reaper HPC (2x2GB)

(I am not entirely set on which memory to get to be honest, I was going to get a DDR2 motherboard as I remember hearing DDR3 was pointless but now when I ask, people seem to say the opposite plus it would be a good idea to have a mobo that supports all the current tech and is future proof, how does this memory sound?)

Graphics Card

Ge Force 8800 GT 512 (Current) / Asus Extreme 8800GTS 512MB TOP PCI-E 2.0

(This is the card in my current PC which btw is a AMD 4400 X2, Nforce 4 A8N-SLI (It was when AMD was the kings) I think due to cost issues as I will keep this card for now, It's still a good performer and even the new G92 8800GTS isn't leaps and bounds ahead of it, I will perhaps upgrade to a 9800GTX or similar when the time comes later this year)

Case

I dont really know to be honest, few friends use ANtec Gaming case, the price seems good. I have been told LIan Li is the best make but they seem expensive, any help on this?

What about?
Antec P182 Advanced Super Midi Tower Black £78


Sound System

Creative GigaWorks 5.1 G550W THX Wireless Speakers
£199
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(I was all set on the Logitech 5.1 THX Certified, but then I saw this Creative set which has the same THX Certified status, same watts and the added benefit of wireless although I prefer the look/design of the Logitech one, I think I will be having this one for sure)

Hard drives

500GB Seagate Barracuda SATA2 32MB ST3500320AS 7200RPM x 3


(I think Seagate are a good make but so is WD and Maxtor I guess, I want 1TB of space and reliability so I intend to use Hardware RAID 5 and get a 1tb of usable space out of the 1.5tb available, thoughts?

Optical Drive

Pioneer BDR-202BK / Asus DRW-2014L1T 20x DVD±RW SATA Dual Layer Lightscribe ReWriter (Black/Silver) - Retail

Link 1
Link 2

(I was thinking of this, but its too expensive and would push me over budget, I could always get blu ray at a later date plus reviews of this are not so great, I will just get a £20 normal DVDRW DVDDL as listed above)

Keyboard & Mouse


I would prob spend £80 on these together perhaps, Id like an illuminated keyboard and a good mouse, I have these in mind thoughts?

Razer Lachesis Banshee Blue 4000dpi High Precision Gaming Mouse - Retail £46.99
Link

Saitek Eclipse 2 Illuminated Keyboard - Blue/Red/Purple
£23.49

Link

Note: Apart from the illuminated part those keyboards don't look great, an all black one might be better like the one I have currently have.

Cooling

I wanted to do liquid cooling but then thought it was too expensive, Using the case fans and obviously the normal CPU fan, will I be able to overclock to a good degree?

Thanks very much, sorry about the length but this is £2000 after all, look forward to receiving your input.

P:S
If I have forgotten a component, please tell me so I don't look dumb for too long :P


ATLANT3AN
 
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My current PSU is 600, I will keep the 1100 for future proof and in case I wanted to add more things, keep it scalable. Yeah I hear that Lian Li are the best but seem to be expensive, I think its worth getting DDR3 memory if I am getting a DDR3 motherboard which is something I wont budge on, I want it to be current standards proof, heh all this proof talk.

Thanks for input
 
I'm not going to get in an argument on where to buy :), in any case I will be spending over a thousand here so appreciate input on the purchases.
 
Appreciate the thoughts badbob, what about the CPU choice and the mobo, I am buying that mobo for sure as theres no point getting a x48 chipset, I am pretty sure I will go for the 9450 CPU as well 2.6ghz one, and how much would I be able to OC this to? If i wanted to reach 3.6ghz I would'nt need a special CPU Cooler?

Thanks
ATLANT3AN :)

P:S

Lian Li PC-A71B Aluminium Tower Case - Black £170.36
Antec P182 Super Midi Tower Case - No PSU (Gun Metal Black) £92.81

You guys recommend this over my Antec 182 choice? a lot more money so is it worth it?
 
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Thanks for the continued input guys, and thanks Grumpy.

The system is kind of more performance and 1080p playback than gaming but that said I want to be able to play Games maxed out at a playable framerate at 1900x1200.

The reason I have decided not to get a GTS is that I dont think the 5-10 frame rates in lower res and maybe 10-25 in higher justify £200 added to it, Also I could always get a 9 series card at a later date, or use my card test it out on games with my system and then decide rather than wasting a possible £200 for minimun improvement to the nakid eye.

I am getting the Antec 182, I have decided this case is brilliant for the price, and I will keep all other specs. The CPU however part of me keeps thinking should I get the Q9550 even though its £160 more or something stupid, If I can OC to 3.4ghz from 2.6ghz safely with a good CPU cooler, I am thinking it is not worth it?

How is this CPU Cooler, would it do the job?

Link

Funny thing is withouth the monitor and the sound system this baby will be £1400 which sounds extremely good value for such a beast :)
 
Hey, Well I think I am all set now on the following setup, Lian Li cases, sorry for my lack of knowledge seeing as it's my first computer build, how can a case be more future proof? than that of an Antec 182 anyway?


Motherboard

Asus Maximus Extreme iX38 Socket 775 Motherboard

CPU

Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 2.66GHz (Retail 775)

Memory

OCZ 4GB PC3-10666 Reaper HPC (2x2GB)

Case

Antec P182 Advanced Super Midi Tower Black

Hard Drives

500GB Seagate Barracuda SATA2 32MB ST3500320AS 7200RPM x3

PSU

Tagan 1100W Modular BZ Piperock Series

Monitor

Dell Ultrasharp 2408WFP 24" Widescreen LCD Monitor - Midnight Grey

Sound System

Creative GigaWorks 5.1 G550W THX Wireless Speakers

Optical Drive

Asus DRW-2014L1T 20x DVD±RW SATA Dual Layer Lightscribe ReWriter (Black/Silver) - Retail

CPU Cooler

Scythe Ninja-CU Full Copper CPU Cooler

Total Cost

£1869 (The remaining £100ish could be used for Keyboard/Mouse/360 Controller

Later Addons:

Better GC
Blu Ray RE Optical Drive

I think I will keep my current BFG 8800 GT 512mb, and wait later perhaps and then if need be upgrade to a better graphics card, final opinions? :)
 
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I have got to admit, I like the Lian Li PC-A71B Aluminium Tower Case - Black, just wondering if its really worth the extra 90quid, The only reviews I can find on it though are from here

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16811112144

Is it me? I just cant find any reviews of this, full in depth reviews. I can find loads on the Antec 182 which would help me when setting this beast up.
 
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Yeah, I have changed my mine jak731. I am going to get the following board/memory.

ASUS Maximus Formula x38 DDR2 board with 4GB (2x2GB) Corsair TwinX DDR2 PC2-8500 (1066), 240 Pin, Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 5-5-5-15, EPP, DHX.

Total comes to £250, much better since the ram alone was £270 for DDR3, Everywhere I have posted have said don't waste your time on DDR2. Articles like this back that up.

http://www.digit-life.com/articles3/cpu/ddr2-800-vs-ddr3-1333.html

Sure DDR3 will be better but not for a while, a good while and even then actual real world differences will be hard to see.

Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme CPU Cooler £38
Scythe S-FLEX 1600RPM Ultra Quiet 120mm Fan - 3/4 Pin £12

Those two are pretty much the best CPU Cooling options So I hear, so I look forward to getting 3.6ghz from the 2.6ghz, that should be a no brainer right?

Must get Antec 182 and not Lian Li, I don't see any reviews for Lian Li cases that I like, is that a telling sign?

ATLANT3AN

Final?
Motherboard

Asus Maximus Formula Intel X38 (Socket 775) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard £152

CPU

Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 2.66GHz (Retail 775) £200

Memory

4GB (2x2GB) Corsair TwinX DDR2 PC2-8500 (1066) £91

Case

Antec P182 Advanced Super Midi Tower Black £81

Graphics Card

BFB Ge Force 8800GT 512mb (Already own)

Note: Will upgrade to a better GC at a later date, this will do fine for now.

Hard Drives

500GB Seagate Barracuda SATA2 32MB ST3500320AS 7200RPM x2 £135

500GB Seagate eSATA External hard disk £81

PSU

Tagan 1100W Modular BZ Piperock Series £170

Note: This is a steep price and probably the only thing I could still change my mind on.

Monitor

Dell Ultrasharp 2408WFP 24" Widescreen LCD Monitor - Midnight Grey £458

Note: It's expensive but boy is it good, seeing as it has HDMI and about 2 dozen other connectors on the back I can use my Xbox 360 on it as well, so it's kind of like I am buying a TV as well as a monitor.

Sound System

Logitech Z-5500 THX Certified 5.1 Speaker System £199

Note: This one really does eclipse the Creative one, read countless reviews on how great t is. so changed to this (It was actualy my original choice)

Optical Drive

Asus DRW-2014L1T 20x DVD±RW SATA Dual Layer Lightscribe ReWriter (Black/Silver) - Retail £25

Note: Upgrade to a good Blu Ray RE later

CPU Cooler

Scythe S-FLEX 1600RPM Ultra Quiet 120mm Fan - 3/4 Pin £12
Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme CPU Cooler £38

Note: Will this be enough to make clocking the Q9450 from 2.6ghz to 3.6ghz a no brainer?

Peripherals

Microsoft Xbox 360 Controller £20

Random Mouse £30

Akasa SATA to eSATA Adapter Kit £3 (Motherboard does not have eSATA)

Note: Will keep my current keyboarb

Total Cost

£1744 (Added from totals - three sites ordering things from)

Later Addons

Better GC
Blu Ray RE Optical Drive
 
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Which competitor link? If you mean newegg I didn't see it as a competitor seeing as it doesn't ship to the UK, but sure if you mean that.

Corsair PSU it is, Probably will get 750w one, much lower than 1100w which I agree is unneeded.

Corsair TX 750W ATX2.2 SLI Compliant PSU
 
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