My visit to PMC

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It's not really a secret that I'm a fan of PMC speakers. I've used them for years professionally, got very used to their 'sound' and so have them at home in my living room doing AV duties for films and the like. Last Friday I was lucky enough to pay a visit to the PMC factory in order to have a listen to some of their bigger active models, having recently bought a surround array of their latest twotwo series active nearfields. The twotwo's are a cracking little speaker that punches well above its weight. It's not cheap but there's not much out there that comes close.

Anyhoo the visit. The bad bit was having to pack these up and sadly return the demo units I've been using for the last couple of weeks waiting for.

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So with those in the boot, starting out at an ungodly hour the pilgrimage began. Luckily traffic was kind and a couple of hours down the M1 later we arrived!

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We started out with a tour of the main areas - lots of gloss black Twenty series being made, a few IB2SE and MB2's. But, you couldn't help but see these bad boys, BB5 XBD-A... Not a bad way to blow £65,000 or there abouts!

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I think the bow in the desk says it all haha! We carried on wandering around and got introduced to a few of the assembly team, saw the component grading area, crossover soldering and midrange doping space, the foam insert section and the testing area. Every set of speakers are listened to and compared to 'The Reference' to ensure it's up to scratch. The Reference section is an amazing cross section of the PMC line up, there's one of every model tucked in that rack.

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We then wandered over to the other building where the R&D dept and demo area is. We had a treat lined up in the demo section.

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twotwo.6 (sat on the amp racks), IB2S XBD-A (Big Blues) and MB2 XBD-A. Source was a Mark Levinson No.390S. We started with the twotwo.6's. These were fresh off the line and still being loosened up, but impressive none the less, and familiar to me given the last few weeks with my own at work. After accustoming our ears we moved on to the Big Blues. Wow - but surprisingly (and controversially?) not that much better than the twotwo.6. Obviously there's a lot more presence and 'oomph' given the larger enclosure and driver, but the tonality and detail wasn't the huge step up you might expect. If you like the Big Blues, the 'Little Blues' with a sub might make a slightly more wallet (and wife) friendly alternative given that IB2 are in the region of £33k.

Next up - MB Actives. Despite sharing the same mid/top drivers there was a distinct difference in presentation which I can only put down to the Bryston electronics. The MB's were smoother and generally slightly more laid back in their presentation. Power was effortless as you'd expect and on my test CD it's only the second system I've heard that's played the 'low note' in 'A Kid/Dog/Woman' without strain. Very impressive - but you'd hope so given you're looking north of £40k for the pair including the subs.

After listening for a good hour or so I made my mind up. Big Blue won my heart over the MB2. The combination of digital amps and DSP that is built into them was that little bit more clinical which was to my preference. Both were amazing, but the IB2 just edged it. Quite a few EDM producers and mastering houses are looking at the IB2S and I'm not surprised. Overall a top day out. :)
 
Hi.... Interesting stuff..... I like the reference rack, good to see all the range and how the size and proportions vary, against my FACT8's....
Looks a good day out.
A year ago tomorrow we had tour around the Linn factory, was a great present for a fan boy ;) ...... They were very welcoming and gave myself and G/F a personal tour of the factory and left us with a coffee and the top end system to play with.
 
Hi.... Interesting stuff..... I like the reference rack, good to see all the range and how the size and proportions vary, against my FACT8's....
Looks a good day out.
A year ago tomorrow we had tour around the Linn factory, was a great present for a fan boy ;) ...... They were very welcoming and gave myself and G/F a personal tour of the factory and left us with a coffee and the top end system to play with.

Factory tours are great if you can get on one. PMC asked us down some time ago, but with one thing and another it's only been able to happen recently. We also came away with a few marketing goodies which is all good! :) The reference section was (as you say) great, being able to physically compare everything so easily, I've been muting a move to OB1i and being able to compare to my FB1i meant I know they'll fit without too much trouble.

Are you using the twotwo's at home now too Lowe?

Not yet. It's something I'd love to do, but it would mean a serious changes to my system as a whole. I'd pretty much have to sell everything other than my sources, buy a processor that has balanced outs, plus change the cabling and add power for my rears. Not to mention find the money for the twotwo.5/6! I'd then have the issue of them being a bit of an odd colour so I'm not so sure it'd be something I'd do just yet - the WAF isn't quite sufficient.

I'm relatively happy with my system - but do miss the extra detail in the midrange, hence the consideration of OB1i.
 
Oh yes came away with a goodie bag :) ....
I'd say also listen to the 20.24 ... Personally I prefer the new PMC sound of the FACTs and the twenty series. The older series for me was to warm full and soft and a bit slow. That depends on the matching amps as to which series balances out best.
That said also been drawn to the idea of a dome mid range, since taking an interest in Dynaudio DIY speakers many years ago......... I will build something myself again one day.
 
Ideally I'd want a three way which discounts the Twenty series straight away. iSeries is a bit better for me just because of the tonal balance with the rest of my system (FB1i/DB1i)

Talking of FACT - the new FACT12 will be out shortly. New tweeter, 2" dome mid and 2x 5.25" extra long throw drivers. Supposedly IB2 sound in a FACT box. :)
 
I preferred the iSeries over the twenty's, but I do now wonder if that's because I listened to them when they had just been released and probably weren't run in yet. Still more than happy with the DB1i's though, it's just completing the set that's going to be a pain as it seems the lower iSeries stock is already vanishing fast. Every dealer I went to over the weekend looking for speaker stands were trying their utmost to get me to have another listen to the twenty range.

If I don't find anything I'll just keep saving up and buy Lowes lot when he finally upgrades! :P
 
Ideally I'd want a three way which discounts the Twenty series straight away. iSeries is a bit better for me just because of the tonal balance with the rest of my system (FB1i/DB1i)

Talking of FACT - the new FACT12 will be out shortly. New tweeter, 2" dome mid and 2x 5.25" extra long throw drivers. Supposedly IB2 sound in a FACT box. :)

Not sure I wanted to learn of a FACT12 on the way :eek:
 
Doubt it - the name for the 'new' Fact was never really known so some people guessed and referred to is as the 10 - we now know it's the '12'.
 
Double the price of an 8 for pair of extra 2" mid domes !!! Bargain...... Shame as I might have liked the idea...... but then I'm more likely to build my own again....
 
Prices have not been confirmed yet - it's all rumours. Might be cheaper :)

I doubt it, I was speaking to couple of the PMC guys, one was local rep, about a year ago at dealer open day. Think they were then kicking the idea around then. (as a customer and making recommendation on the day they were quite chatty with me ;)
Comments then was expected to be around that price, though it was sounding like a larger design than you have suggested.
The FACT8 has gotten a bit pricey now, and I'd hope a 12 was 7K max... putting it directly against Linn Akurate 242, which it should spank ;)
Oh well there is always exdem or eBay..... :D
 
I remember listening to some PMC speakers and auditioning them next to ATCs and Klein and Hummels for a small edit suite ... Went for Genelecs in the end, they have such a unique sound however. Some of the most punchy speakers I've ever heard tho!

Looks like a great day out .. Didn't realise they were based in Luton.
 
Was a top day. The biggest surprise was the new twotwo series without a doubt. The twotwo.6 is simply superb - well worth a listen.
 
£4200 - pricey, but there's two DACs, 4 amps, DSP EQ, network audio etc as well as the speaker itself. But, that aside they're simply superb for such a small speaker. Everyone who's heard them simply shakes their head in utter disbelief, and that's just a stereo pair. In surround they're sublime. :)
 
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