My WC upgrade build inc 4870

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For those of you who might be interested.

Finally started to get everything together so here's the first part of the new WC setup.

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D-Tek fusion v2 cpu block with quad core mid chamber insert. This replaces my rather old Asetek Antartica waterblock. One of the best blocks in it's day but it's amazing how far things have moved on in 5 years - moving to a quad core system seriously hghlighted the fact the Antartica juast wasn't going to cope with a processor that dissipates 250 watts of heat when seriously overclocked. Things have moved from thick base, large copper blocks to thinner base, small copper blocks with "pins" to increase cooling surface area and the D-Tek Fuzion v2 is rated to be the best out there.

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Here I have used the unversal mounting block. using this lets you mount the posts seperate from the actual block, meaning you don't have to remove the motherboard everytime you want to lift the block off. On the rear of the motherboard is a "brace" fitted that stops the motherboard from flexing - this lets you use a lot of preassure when screwing down the block - greater preasure = greater performance. Without this brace, the socket area can actually flex enough to touch the motherboard mounting tray - not good!

I've replaced the 1/2" barbs with 10/8mm push fit quick connectors - the rest of the system is 10/8mm and that size hose is a lot easier to bend and route than 1/2" hose - quite an important factor to consider when you have a complicated route esp with Crossfire.

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Inside the block, you can fit different "nozzles". As I'm running a Quad core, I've obviously gone for the quod core insert - it splits the flow to direct the water across the two rows of cores. You can see in the following pic the way they are laid out:-

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Next up, gfx waterblocks :-)

Couple of boxes waiting for me when I got home - 5 days postage from Solvenia - not too shabby :-)

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Nice retail packaging - better that Aquacomputers annonymous brown box.

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Contents of the box. Outlets both sides of the box allow simple tube routing for Crossfire. Compression fittings are very nice :-) Instructions are also very good and have great pics to support the install. The black blocks are extensions to cover the mosfet cooling. Alls bolts and screws are included in the package along with the outlet blanking plugs.

Next up - install pics.

Ok, so here's the fitting of one of the EK blocks to one of the 4870's - must say, these blocks are superb and fit wondefully if you follow the instructions.

First up, strip the HSF from the card.

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Remove all the larger screws from the back of the card first - these aren't that big and any cross head screw driver that can fit/remove motherboard tray screws will do the job. The hard bit is removing the four screws that secure the core hsf and the silver back plate in the photo. Now, I think ATI have used some kind of anti tamper screw on this bit as a cross head screw driver, even a very small one, will NOT fit. The trouble is that the depth of the screw head is very shallow so the point of a cross head screw driver bottoms out before it can engage. I used a small flat head screw driver from a watch/glasses repair kit, leant down on the screw driver quite hard and used a pair of pliers on shaft of the screw driver and the screws undid fairly easily. You really don't want to be stripping heads of these screws because then, for want of a better turn of phrase, you'll be screwed.

HSF off :-) Quite impressed with the TIM spread but still a bit too much imo.

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Now, inline with the instructions, I've added a thin layer of Artic Ceramique to the core and the eight ram chips. I applied the supplied thick thermal pad to the long "vtec" chip and the thin thermal pad to the vregs (to the right of the vtec chip). Now, this is slightly different to the AquaGratix block I had trouble with - they advised thermal pads for the vtec chip and the two above it but only TIM for the vregs. I noticed that when I removed the AquaGratix block none of the vregs has made contact with the block so I'm much happier with EK's approach.

Next, I fitted the vreg cooler place to the main block. I used a little TIM between the two blocks to aid in heat transfer.

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And a rear shot for those into that sort of thing :-)

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Agian, I like EK's approach - the vtec chip and those above it don't sit in a "channel" like the AqauGratix block therefore you can't really accidently cli the edge of a chip when tightening the board down. If you look at the stock hsf - then components sit in a large hole and don't contact the hsf at all.
 
Fit the connectors next:-

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As I'm down to a single 4870 atm, I've installed the connectors in a single card format. At the bottom I have 90deg 10/8 puch fit connectors and the top has the supplied blanking plugs.

Fitting the block to the card next:-

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All done - it's a really nice fit and a nice single slot solution. The instructions state to use minimal pressure on the mounting screws and to check the board isn't warping when you tighten them up - the AquaGratix block said nothing of this and I came a cropper because of it. I found finger tight to be enough on all the screws and lifting the block for cinfirmation showed excellent contact for all chips.

All that's left is to install it into the system:-

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Very happy - still pushing out the air bubbles but a quick boot into windows shows the gpu idling @ 33c and 42c under load. Only upped the cpu idle by 2c to 34c and load is 55c (that's at 1.56v measured as well).

Waiting for the 2nd 4870 now for some WC'd crossifre action :-)
 
Hi mate
Im running the same board as you but i cannot seem to get two sticks of 2gb ram to work. When i take 1 stick out of the machine its fine, but then i add the other and it blue screens all the time. Have you had this problem and found RAm that works, or did you update anything. Any help would be much appreciated.
Cheers
Adam
 
Cant wait to see the other card in, your sig is too big btw, 4 lines maximum.

Arrrrgh! how am I I going to get all that into 4 lines? hehe, thanks for the heads up.

adamibbo, have you tried the pari in both slots - i.e. both white slots, both blue slots? Next thing to check is when it works when you take one stick out - put JUST that one stick in and run memtest against it - it could be faulty. Also check the mem speeds - it's easy to OC with this board and have way over spec mem speeds.
 
is your mobo fitted upside down? if its not and your picture is upside down then your cpu waterblock is fitted upside down,looking nice m8,i got a fusion block and await a fitting from ocuk(dont ask long answer lol) to fit my 2nd waterblock for gpu.
 
Arrrrgh! how am I I going to get all that into 4 lines? hehe, thanks for the heads up.

adamibbo, have you tried the pari in both slots - i.e. both white slots, both blue slots? Next thing to check is when it works when you take one stick out - put JUST that one stick in and run memtest against it - it could be faulty. Also check the mem speeds - it's easy to OC with this board and have way over spec mem speeds.

yeh tried all the combinations and on there own both sticks work which is why i thought they might be incompatitble with the board. I guess both of your sticks work fine straight of the box (no fiddling or anything), mite take a punt with them.

Cheers
 
Houston, we have lift off.

Two 4870's in Crossfire and water cooled.

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It was an absolute bi**h getting the link pipe on!

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I need a bigger side window now!
 
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why u not get the sli/cf connector a lot easier lol , what temps does both gpu give? im not sure to loop or use manifold

It would be easier but I didn't order one - what I have works it was just fiddly.

Adding a 2nd GPU to the loop made GPU temps go up by 2c to 35c idle, 44c under ATItool artifact tester. Room temp is a sweltering 27c atm though!

Still Running on a 120.2 Black Ice Pro rad so I'm impressed :-) I did upgrade to a pair of Scythe 1900rpm fans though.
 
Arrrrgh! how am I I going to get all that into 4 lines? hehe, thanks for the heads up.
Edit your current one to make it fit?

Q6600 @ 3.6ghz | 2x2gb OCZ ReaperX | 2 HD4870's in Crossfire | Maximus Formula | 300gb Velociraptor | 2x500gb Spinpoints | Corsair HX620 | Termaltake PurePower 250w drive bay PSU powering 1 4870 :-) | Lian-Li V2000b | WC'd CPU & gfx cards (D-tek + EK).

Should fit, im not sure :(
 
amigafan2003..

My corsair only came with 2 PCI-e cables, and since it looks like the 4870's need 2 per card, I was wondering what you did for the other card?

edit:- Just noticed your sig actually, so your not using the corsair to power both cards.. I'm not sure if I like that solution or not.
 
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is your Q6600 a B3? Because even an overclocked G0 won't take 250W =\

According to the extreme system psu calculator, a Q6600 G0 @ 4ghz @ 1.6v is 259 watts, which is my target.

edit:- Just noticed your sig actually, so your not using the corsair to power both cards.. I'm not sure if I like that solution or not.

It's a great solution for £20, and it's not as if I have to worry about spare drive bays in the v2000b.
 
I think that rating refers to the fact that it sheds 95W of heat at stock, not it's actual power consumption.

I see.

Their site is really unhelpful though, but it does say:
Thermal Design Power: 95W

Which would seem to back up what you said.

I wonder how many people assumed that 95W was the power consumption, not the heat output? Crooks.
 
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