Nearly a mini fire!

[413x]

I've removed the cooler.
Obviously not using it again. It's dead.

I'd replace the cooler with a cooler master 212 before investigating anything else, personally

Yeah I'm looking at other options now

I would not use that AIO again, if it even works. Most likely an internal seal has failed and water got to where it should not be and caused a short. Is a little concerning that the PSU did not have an internal cut out to prevent that much power being drawn through a sata cable , was the connector in the correct slot on psu and not a mistake by putting it in the pcie gpu slots ?

Definitely in the correct slot. The cables won't fit in the wrong holes

 

[Jay85]

I would not use that AIO again, if it even works. Most likely an internal seal has failed and water got to where it should not be and caused a short. Is a little concerning that the PSU did not have an internal cut out to prevent that much power being drawn through a sata cable , was the connector in the correct slot on psu and not a mistake by putting it in the pcie gpu slots ?

This,

Last time i had a short like this where the cable burnt out was when a flow meter seal went and got into the electronics. The cable melted followed by white smoke!

 

[413x]

This,

Last time i had a short like this where the cable burnt out was when a flow meter seal went and got into the electronics. The cable melted followed by white smoke!

White smoke was starting. Could see the haze in the air!

And goes without saying I'm not using the pump!
I'll stay away from pumps in future too. Its a bit of a safety hazard that.

 

[Jay85]

White smoke was starting. Could see the haze in the air!

And goes without saying I'm not using the pump!
I'll stay away from pumps in future too. Its a bit of a safety hazard that.

indeed mate, i've never had issues with actual D5's/DDC's but AIO's and flow meters i have seen and experienced them burning out like this.

 

[413x]

indeed mate, i've never had issues with actual D5's/DDC's but AIO's and flow meters i have seen and experienced them burning out like this.

I know pumps fail but I would have thought there be some fail safe and to prevent over current draw. Obviously not the case. I can easily leave my pc running without me there for hours. Glad this wasn't case here!

 

[Jay85]

I know pumps fail but I would have thought there be some fail safe and to prevent over current draw. Obviously not the case. I can easily leave my pc running without me there for hours. Glad this wasn't case here!

If its a component failure like the pump, i doubt the psu would trip because of it. Especially if the problem isn't on the psu side.

 

[EsaT]

Molex connectors are capable of higher current, and the pins are normally crimped or soldered rather than cheap moulding (as is the case on most faulty Sara adapters)

From safety perspective whole SATA power connector itself is faulty with minimal separation between contacts and nothing to keep them separate if contacts loosen.

Is a little concerning that the PSU did not have an internal cut out to prevent that much power being drawn through a sata cable

Such flimsy connector would be melting and starting "election of pope" far before current would be enough to trigger any protection.
Unless limit was set so slow that spinup surge of couple HDDs could trigger it!

 

[413x]

Going with an air cooler for sure this time around.
This issue isn't worth having to think about. After this I don't think I'd want to be leaving my pc running with this sort of issue even a remote possibility

 

[EsaT]

I know pumps fail but I would have thought there be some fail safe and to prevent over current draw.

This smells shorted connector courtesy of about complete lack of safety factors in design of SATA power connector.
Center of burn is pretty darn close to where 12V and ground pins are side by side.

Old Molex can sure be hard to get connected and can see some worser made connectors breaking if using excessive force.
But once connected that design has extreme resistance against effects of thermal cycling over time etc factors.

 

[Armageus]

EK also uses the Sata power connector for their pumps.

Doesnt make it right.

Sata is good for 3x1.5a@12v so 54W. Molex has far more headroom at 132W.

 

[Hotwired]

I had a crispy cable behind the motherboard tray from exactly this.

Sata/Sata cables connected because it was a convenient adaptor from what was available.

Some years later I get a crispy sound and a fat plume of smoke out the top venting fan. World speed record for whacking the PSU switch off. Case panel scorched inside to this day.

All I can say is bloody lucky I was at the PC.

Also never do sata/sata cable extensions or adapters. Those tightly packed fingers are trash. Connector comes loose a bit, angles a bit and now the fingers can touch...

 

[413x]

I had a crispy cable behind the motherboard tray from exactly this.

Sata/Sata cables connected because it was a convenient adaptor from what was available.

Some years later I get a crispy sound and a fat plume of smoke out the top venting fan. World speed record for whacking the PSU switch off. Case panel scorched inside to this day.

All I can say is bloody lucky I was at the PC.

Also never do sata/sata cable extensions or adapters. Those tightly packed fingers are trash. Connector comes loose a bit, angles a bit and now the fingers can touch...

So really was this a bit naughty by corsair to ever supply such a connection? I mean you can't avoid it if its an non changeable part on the component?

Wonder what would have occurred if I hadn't been there?

Just a ruined computer? Or worse?

 

[Digital X]

I don't know if this will help future purchases, but I'm using a Arctlic Liquid Freezer 2 on my system, only cable I need to plug in is to the CPU FAN connection.

 

[EsaT]

So really was this a bit naughty by corsair to ever supply such a connection?

Good old Molex would indeed be far more secure and safer.

 

[Hotwired]

So really was this a bit naughty by corsair to ever supply such a connection? I mean you can't avoid it if its an non changeable part on the component?

Wonder what would have occurred if I hadn't been there?

Just a ruined computer? Or worse?

I dunno, most bad ideas simply aren't banned until you have some bodies as irrefutable proof.

As for what would have happened, probably tons more smoke as the plastic burned because of the hot contacts and maybe it would be able to stay stable like that.

Or it could be worse and more things could burn or melt from the heat of the short circuit. PSU won't know its supplying an electrical fire inside your case. It'll keep pumping current til it dies.

 

[V F]

Going with an air cooler for sure this time around.
This issue isn't worth having to think about. After this I don't think I'd want to be leaving my pc running with this sort of issue even a remote possibility

These things always shatters one's confidence.

Good old Molex would indeed be far more secure and safer.

That's the sad thing. There is nothing in my case to connect any modular molex connectors. I think I only have two sata connectors. One connected for an SSD and the EK pump. Everything else is main power lines.

 

[Jay85]

These things always shatters one's confidence.

Was gonna say this too, don't lose confidence with all watercooling products because of one experience. Crap happens and you just learn and move on.

 

[V F]

Was gonna say this too, don't lose confidence with all watercooling products because of one experience. Crap happens and you just learn and move on.

That's the funny thing with computer tech. I've lost count the amount of people across many forums/Reddit/social media that has had Gigabyte, Asus, Corsair, EVGA etc, then when something fails, they're banning it from their builds. Calling them a trash brand. Nobody has 100% reliability.

 

[Jay85]

That's the funny thing with computer tech. I've lost count the amount of people across many forums/Reddit/social media that has had Gigabyte, Asus, Corsair, EVGA etc, then when something fails, they're banning it from their builds. Calling them a trash brand. Nobody has 100% reliability.

Same mate, the amount of people that do this is atrocious. One thing fails and the whole brand is trash, not saying the OP is like this but defo don't lose faith in something just cos one part fails on you. Worse are those that go onto different social outlets and blast it all over trying to shame them.

 

[413x]

This is a bit different than a dodgy gpu dying though. It could have been horrendous.

Also it isn't really compromising anything going air vs AIO.