Need a new Broadband provider,moving from Eclipse

jesta

jesta

jesta

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Hey guys,
Need your help,I want to move from Eclipse Broadband as they are not offering me a good deal. Currently I am on 512k broadband (yeah I know very slow) with Eclipse which they were charging me at £17.99 and this month they put the price up to £18.99, the BT Broadband checker says I can get UP TO 1mb.

Can anyone recommend me some good broadband providers with a fair price for me,It has to offer unlimited download and if possible no fair use policy.

Thanks.
 
If the most you can get is 512kbps, don't be surprised if Be don't want to know.

Attenuation, SNR margin et al would be useful though.
 
Yeah I'm pretty sure Be wouldn't want to take me on as there customer as I think I maybe too far from their exchange. What does Attenuation, SNR margin mean?

IDNet seems pretty expensive and does not offer unlimited download.Any other recommendations?
 
They're values that have some bearing on what you'd actually get - your router should give you them.

Unlimited doesn't exist, unless you've got one of the LLU providers available or are willing to pay a crazy amount of money. Look at how much you actually use, and if it's that much perhaps consider one of the Enta resellers.
 
In what way do you mean it doesn't exist?As in no providers will offer unlimited or do you mean they offer "unlimited" but if you download over a certain limit they will ask you to stop?

Also how do I check the values through my router?Sorry networking isn't my strong point at all.Thanks.
 
The SNR margin etc should be in the same status page as you got the sync rates from.

jesta said:
In what way do you mean it doesn't exist?As in no providers will offer unlimited or do you mean they offer "unlimited" but if you download over a certain limit they will ask you to stop?
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Both - no sane ISP offers unlimited over the BT Wholesale network without charging a fortune for it, and any ISP that doesn't either a) has a fair usage limit they're not telling you about or b) is about to go bust (or introduce (a)) unless they're charging a good bit more than £20/month...
 
Eze-talk will enable you for upto 8MB regaurdless of how far you are from the exchange.
They have connected friends of mine that have previously been turned down for 512K coz they were too far from exchange...
I've seen one friend that was 6.5K from exchange and they connected him at 2Mb

Their 8Mb BB starts at £17.99 quite steep I know, but if your having trouble getting a provider then try them...
I'm having a brand new line installed on thursday and I'm getting their 24MB BB... but then again I'm just under 1KM from exchange.... :D I'm also getting cheep calls through them too...

just my opinion...

BTW, eze-talk do unlimited for £36 per month....
 
I went from Eclipse 512K to Be. IIRC the BT broadband checker said I could only get up to 1MB as well. With Be I could (according to my stats) get ~13Mbps, however I'm a cheapskate so I'm on Be's slowest service at 8Mbps.
Goto www.samknows.com to find out what's available at your telephone exchange.
 
Samknows says I am able to get LLU service from Be,etc. But it also says I can only get 1mb on ADSL. Would LLU and ADSL service provide different speed or am I limited to both 512k?

Never really understood the difference between LLU and ADSL!
 
LLU is ADSL. The difference is you're connected to someone else's kit at the exchange, rather than BT Wholesale's.
 
So if BT exchange says I can get upto 1mb it doesn't mean I also can only get upto 1mb on LLU exchange?

Also checking my router settings I get:
Downstream Upstream
SNR Margin 11.8 12.0 dB
Line Attenuation63.4 31.5 dB

If possible can someone explain or find a site that tells me what this means?

Thanks
 
Irrespective of whose equipment one uses in the exchange it should all provide around the same speed (naturally dependant on the package adsl 2/+ or whatever) However what Bt's checker says one can get and what one actually can are often quite different
http://broadband.o2.co.uk/
- usually one gets very pleasantly surprised. I would try O2 ( Be is owned by them and O2 packages are cheaper though otherwise the same - mad aintit - but then lots o things are! - if as O2 er puts their telephone number into BE they know who you are) No setup fee with O2 at present and if one joins via quidco then one should get £25 back.
I am on the £7.50 and topup my mobile card £10 every 3 months - they loan you a modem a Thomson Speedtouch 585V7
Your line figures aint too promising bearing in mind they are taken at 512-
Based on the values you entered, we gestimate that your line can support around 1.3 - 2.1 Mbps. However give it a go put your telephone number into O2's checker - its painless!
 
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jesta said:
So if BT exchange says I can get upto 1mb it doesn't mean I also can only get upto 1mb on LLU exchange?

Also checking my router settings I get:
Downstream Upstream
SNR Margin 11.8 12.0 dB
Line Attenuation63.4 31.5 dB

If possible can someone explain or find a site that tells me what this means?

Thanks
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From following the links in the STICKY you would get 2Mbps on ADSL2+
 
Just tried o2's Broadband checker,it says I can get the Standard one, For £7.50 its cheap. How is o2 with torrents?When it says upto 8mb,even if I can't get that I can still get 512k from them right or do they just cancel my order?I'm asking cos 2years ago I signed up with Demon as they said I can get upto 2mb,but then few weeks later they realised I couldn't get that and cancelled my order without me knowing,thus leaving me with no internet for a month and don't really wanna experience that again.

Thanks
 
O2/Be, or any other rate adaptive service (such as any "up to 8Mbps" via BT Wholesale), should go as fast as your line can handle.
What you tried to sign up for with Demon was fixed rate - you would either have connected at 2Mbps, or not connected at all.
 
Ahhh I see, may give O2 a try as at that price its the best I can get really!

Thanks a lot, I won't be ordering that soon so if anyone has any other cheap broadband providers keep them coming!

Edit: How are O2 in terms of downloading speed and altho unlimited has anyone downloaded so much that they have been told to stop?:p
 
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