Need a new Goldfish Tank

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We've got two goldfish and both have their own separate bowls but I feel guilty they live in such a boring environment. I want to stick them both in a new tank but don't know exactly what I need to get. I'd like one that aerates the water by blowing bubbles and makes things a bit more interesting for them and also keep the water fresher for longer. Hopefully it would mean they wont need to be cleaned out so often.

I don't really want to spend more than £70, so does anyone have any recommendations with regards to what tank to get and what else is needed? I know I could just go out and buy any old tank but I'd prefer to get some advice from someone who knows first. Thanks :)
 
Well, 70 quid is not a lot of money when it comes to aquariums.
I would suggest looking on ebay for a bargain, and get as big a tank as you can!!

Goldfish are messy, what kind of filtration are you using on the tanks at the moment?

You need really a tank of about 3 feet in length for a single fish.. I think 55 gallons per fish is reccomended by some... Goldfish are a pain for aquariums, you need big tanks, killer filtratrion and lots of maintenance if the tanks are small!

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arrgghh, they are in bowls?? How big are these bowls?

This is my canned response to noob Aquatic threads btw
Top 10 Aquarium Tips from Malt_Vinegar

Tip 1 - If you are not sure - Ask advice from multiple sources

There is a lot of mis-information and bad advice out there. Most of it is given out by chain stores and pet-shops. Even aquaria shops are prone to giving out poor advice. They, after all, do want to sell you stuff, and the more the better! (if you keep killing fish and buying more, they are onto a winner!)

Tip 2 - Cycling is important!

If you dont know what cycling is, then you are not ready to start your tank. Look up "fishless cycling" and go from there In my experience, cycling can only be sped up by one method (forget potions and pills). Seeded filter media..... This will require you to take filter media or gravel from an already established tank. Some local fish shops will help you with this. Hanging some gravel (or filter media) from their tanks in an old clean leg from a pair of tights whilst it cycles will help seed the tank with all the nice stuff from the establised media.

Tip 3 - Get the largest Aquarium you can afford/fit.

Larger tanks tend to be more stable than smaller ones. They tolerate changes better, and generally are easier to look after

Tip 4 - Get the best filter you can afford. Try and stick to recognised brands.

The better your filtration, the easier your tank will be to look after. A cheap filter dying on you when you go away for the weekend will mean dead fish.

Tip 5 - Add fish slowly

One of two fish is best after your cycle is completed. If you overstocking a tank too quickly, you will overload all the nice bacteria that you carefully established in your cycle. Check levels after a couple of weeks, and provided all is ok, you can add a couple more.

Tip 6 - Cleaning!

When you clean filter media, do it in old tank water (do it during a weekly water change - see next tip) to save time. You have established filter media full of good stuff. Squeeze and rinse in the old tank water and you wont kill/remove it all, and your filter will be back to top performance again in a couple of days. Tap water will kill all of this good stuff and you will be back to square one! This applies to your whole tank, so scrubbing and cleaning a tank, and re-filling it with tap water will put you back to square one! (No one likes cycling more than they have to!)

Tip 7 - Water changes.

Generally speaking 10% a week, or 20% everyu couple of weeks will be adequate. Your filter cannot remove some things from the water, and if the levels of these things builds up too high, the fish will be in pain, and eventually die. Water changes with de-chlorintated water will help to dilute these nasty things and will keep the tank healthy. Doing it little and often is a lot less of a pain than doing larger water-changes!! Rememeber the more stable your tank, the happier it is.

Tip 8 - Plants

Planted tanks look very pretty, and can be fantastic. However, some of plants require specialist equipment, certain substrate and supplements. Then of course you have the problem of your fish using them for a quick snack. Again, you need to re-search hardly plants if you have anything in the tank that might have a nibble. Be aware that lots of pet-stores sell plants that are not truly aquatic, and will not grow well, or simply die off quickly!

Tip 9 - Fish

Fish are great, they are fun and interesting to keep and watch. They are less fun when they are dead, or you have a tank that is being dominated by one fish that will ruin your chances to put anything else in. Research and ask questions about the fish you want, and take note of any special advice on care-sheets. Lots of fish require species only tanks, or have specialist dietory requirements. Failure to do this re-search will ruin your tank.

Tip 10 - FISH DO NOT GROW TO THE SIZE OF THE TANK

Fishkeepers all over the world cringe when they see this kind of statement. IT IS NOT TRUE!! Fish become stunted, unhealthy, die earlier, and in some cases become deformed when kept in tiny tanks. Dont do it!


My final guide point would be this. Fish keeping is the wrong name for this hobby. You are keeping the water, and the water is keeping the fish. Look after your water and fish environment, and your fish will thrive.
 
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Thanks for the advice and sorry for the belated reply!

I bought THIS tank in the end and my 2 goldfish are happily swimming around in it as I type (see below). Just wondering, should the pump be running all day every day? The fish seem like they're constantly battling against the flow of the water when the pumps on and I dont want to stress/exhaust them!

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If you didnt cycle the water before transferring your fish they might die.

I would get some water tested at an aquarium or use home test water kits before its to late.
 
Well, it will do to keep them in for a while, its slightly better than a bowl. Although the tank will not be cycled...

The filter will need to be on 24-7, and the tank lights should be on a timer for at the most 8-10 hours a day.

Fish swim against currents all day everyday of their lives :)
 
As above, should have cycled the tank for a week or something really before putting the fish in :p as theres no bacteria in the pump.

Pump should be on always yes, if you think it is pushing too much, turn it down a notch (If it has a speed adjuster that is)

That tank should be fine to be fair, people will moan and say 'ITS TOO SMALL OMGZZ!!!11' but it really isn't for just the two.

I suggest looking up on fish keeping though if you intend on carrying on to keep fish...And as above, might be worth buying some water test strips to see what the amonia / nitrate levels etc are, make sure they are in check as it can harm the fishies :)


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And as the person above said a nice current can help keep the fish healthy, theres usually a place in the tank that they can go to rest anyway :p
 
Thanks again :)

They've spent the past few years in 2 seperate bowls with no filtration whatsoever with monthly 100% water changes with the gravel also cleaned vigorously. I realise now that was less than ideal (sorry fish) but thought if they can survive that they'd be ok in the new tank sooner rather than later. They've been in for a day and seem happier already :)
 
Word of advise...you won't / shouldn't really need to ever do 100% water changes...as you basically are starting off the tank cycle from fresh again...granted the fish will no doubt be okay, but it's a bit silly at the end of the day :)

Max my lady and I do is 50% with a gravel vac at the same time...Cleans the water and the stones and keeps the fish happy :p
 
My Goldfish is about 12 years old, won him at a school fun day. We have not changed his water once, he is living perfectly fine in the green sluge

Living... Perhaps... Doubt its an enjoyable existance.

Goldfish are messy, need large tanks and regular maintenance (more so than tropical fish) to remain healthy and meet their full potiental. However, as I said before, in this instance anything is better than bowls.

Anyone who says anything else IS wrong. You can argue till you are blue in the face, you will still be wrong :)
 
Long Post.

Great advise as always mate:)

Tip 10 - FISH DO NOT GROW TO THE SIZE OF THE TANK

Fishkeepers all over the world cringe when they see this kind of statement. IT IS NOT TRUE!! Fish become stunted, unhealthy, die earlier, and in some cases become deformed when kept in tiny tanks. Dont do it!

Got me thinking about Dobbie's Garden Centre in Chesterfield. Late december last year they had a Panther Grouper for sale in their marine section:mad:. For those who don't know what these are they get to about 70cm long by about 30-40cm deep!

Who the hell has Marine tank that big?! it'd need a tank about 7 metres by about 4 deep!:mad:
 
Great advise as always mate:)

Got me thinking about Dobbie's Garden Centre in Chesterfield. Late december last year they had a Panther Grouper for sale in their marine section:mad:. For those who don't know what these are they get to about 70cm long by about 30-40cm deep!

Who the hell has Marine tank that big?! it'd need a tank about 7 metres by about 4 deep!:mad:

Cheers,I do what I can to help responsible fish-keeping!!

Oh, i know.. Its terrible. There are some terrible LFS out there!

Often though its the LFS that has taken them in from someone else who accidentally bought a tank-buster. Also they can be sent in error from suppliers, or in with other fish by accident.

Generally speaking LFS don't want to hold onto fish!! Maidenhead aquatics at Hare Hatch has a rescue red-tailed cat for example :)

He has his own Sump tank, and I think they said there was a deal being done to get him sent to tourist aquarium somewhere on the coast to give him the space he needs. They cant put much in with him, as he might get peckish, and thats a large sump tank and stock space taken up by a fish they can't sell!
 
Unfortunatley it was in the little display tank with a little card above it that had a small amount of info about it, and a price. I think they should've sent it back to the suppliers and got back out to sea, only place fish that size belong.
 
Theres a fish shop near me that like 100 little fish in a 2/3 by 1.5 tanks :(

Theres also some big ones in there at times!!! They can't even move, its so cruel
 
The 2 bowls the fish were in are still full of the horrible looking water they'd spent the last few weeks in...should I add some to the new tank?
 
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