need assistance re PACE

Super Tigers · 3 May 2008 at 23:56

hi, I am doing some research for a forthcoming job interview. I am looking to move into a technical support role for a fraud investigation department. I will be looking at risk profiling for possible investigations. Are the PACE codes still relavent when documenting evidence? Or have they been superceded by later anti terrorist police acts. If anyone works in local government fraud investigations I would be interested in talking to you further.

Thanks

Rob h

Bomag · 4 May 2008 at 00:36

I don't see that the IR code of a PACE box are really relevant.

J.B · 4 May 2008 at 01:31

Bomag said:
I don't see that the IR code of a PACE box are really relevant.

I thought this would be about a set top box! :rolleyes:

Berserker · 4 May 2008 at 01:35

PACE is still relevant - it gets revised every so often.

http://police.homeoffice.gov.uk/operational-policing/powers-pace-codes/pace-code-intro/

(first result in Google, btw

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dsb · 4 May 2008 at 01:46

if PACE is not followed then any investigation that goes to court will be ripped appart, what also might be intresting to you is the new guide lines in disclosure, not sure what you will be documenting but now when a case file is to be sent to court i have to disclose my criminal history, thankfully i dont have one (anymore) so if you have an active role in the investigation you will also be required to do this.

Meridian · 4 May 2008 at 08:30

dsb said:
when a case file is to be sent to court i have to disclose my criminal history,

OT but:

Lord, you have to do those stupid disclosure forms as well? Everyone here at the FSS hates them. My understanding is that it's all down to one over-zealous CPS lawyer with his own personal interpretation of the law. Trouble is, no-one actually seems to know what to do with them when they receive them: we've had police (and the CPS) asking what they are and where they're supposed to go. We've had them turning up lost in police stations and even rubbish dumps. Absolute chaos.

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woodsy · 4 May 2008 at 08:38

An officers power of arrest are now governed under the Serious Organized Crime and Police Act 2005, or SOCAP for short.

In basic terms the main differences are.

Section 110 of SOCAP replaces the existing S.24 and S.25 PACE. It means that the existing phrase "arrestable offence" will become obsolete. It means you can arrest for any indictable offence. If the offence is summary, then there's a "necessity test" to be applied. This is very similar to the existing S.25 PACE conditions, with three important differences:
You will no longer be able to arrest someone just because they have an address which is unsuitable for the service of summons
You can arrest if it's necessary to allow for the prompt and effective investigation of the offence or suspected offender
You can arrest if you think the suspected offender is likely to 'disappear' and thus hinder the investigation

Super Tigers · 4 May 2008 at 11:09

Thanks for the help guys, will definitely check out those new disclosure rules.

Rob H

Super Tigers · 13 May 2008 at 20:04

Just a quick update, got a phone call today confirming that I have passed the interview and they have offered me the position. Not too sure when I shall be starting, it depends if I can get released from my current job. Really looking forward to moving into this 'expanding area', lots of hard work ahead to get upto speed on the legislation and systems.

Thanks for the useful advice, it paid off.

Rob H

sunama · 13 May 2008 at 23:47

Congrats.

Will your pay rise, significantly?