Well I've been having problems with my bandit ever since I got the restriction kit installed. It's a long story and I'll try to include as much detail as possible and keep it short.
I bought the the bike mid may. It seemed immaculate for its year and it was a good price. Only had 13000 miles on it so I was a little weary at first but after a good look over everything and starting it from cold everything seemed great no noticable noises or anything. The bike was unrestricted when I bought it and I went on to ride it home (After getting insurance ofcourse) and it went like a dream.
Over the next few days I was contemplating not getting a restriction fitted but after some advice from you guys and my dad I just got it done. I got it fitted in a garage which my dad used for his car before but they had someone whocame in at night and worked on bikes + He was only going to charge me
£70. He showed me one of the washers which seemed clean and well made but he couldn't find the others so he made some up (which I never seen).
The second I pulled away from the garage there was a massive difference. I stalled twice coming out and another few times at traffic lights. The bike was just dyeing on me when I tried to pull away up to 20mph. Then there was no difference what I could feel from riding it unrestricted after that speed. The bike was warm and it was a dry day so I seen no reason for it doing this. To combat this problem I had to use the clutch and give it a lot more throttle. Pulling away like a bike should and filtering was just a no no. Hell even my shadow could get of the line easier and take less effort.
So I took it back to the guy and said all of this to him and he said Well your going to notice a difference going from 100bhp to 33bhp and then went on to say the fuel is properly hitting of the washer and coming back then going through due to the low force at slower speeds and that what was causing the problem and basically I would just have to live with it. I just agreed with him and left as I don't know a lot about bikes myself. :-/
Another problem was after the kit was put in the bike was harder to start and sometimes required more choke than usual. This started to get worse as time when on and if sometimes I didn't put the choke on and tried to start it would tick over for a few seconds then die and I would have to spend the best part of 5 mins trying to start it with the choke on then of then on
. Then around a month later the bike just refused to start at all and I got really sick of it as It was making me late for things and having to arrange other transport. So I took the restrict out and I was shocked. Three of the washers looked like they were made by a kid with a hacksaw 
and even had though sticker residue on parts of them. I was furious!
The bike then ran like a dream for the next 20 miles or so then there was a problem which is really hard to explain but I'll try my best
when you twisted the throttle the bike seemed to choke and got no power at all for a few seconds then kick in then back to no power doing it constantly. I could still get up to speed but it was very hard to maintain a constant speed and accelerate. So I took of the tank again and a friend said it might be an air bubble in the fuel line so we filled the line up with then reconnected the tank, making sure no hoses were kinked. It ran fine again for around 60 miles then as soon as I left the petrol station with a full tank of fuel it started doing it again??
Taking the tank of again (after pumping all the bloody fuel out) and removing the fuel tap off from the tank and giving everything a good clean out then putting it all back together realsing it all looked fine it ran for maybe 30-40 miles over to my dads and leaving the bike for a day in some light showers it done it was doing it again.The bike would start fine even with the choke off but I always put it halfway until it was heated up.
The next day I gave the bike a full service with new spark plugs, castrol full synthetic oil, K&N air filter and K&N oil filter. Still ran the same but started and ticked over perfectly. I then decided to go to a garage and get the problem resolved by someone who knows what they are doing. I booked the bike in a week in advance, limped it down and behold... Starting running ok again just as I got there (around 30 miles). They said they will have a look at it anyway. After a few days I phoned and they haven't even looked at it but I thought it was ok they must just be busy. A week later from they day I booked it for they said they started it up and it did sound a little rough at first and then took it out and after a mile or so it was fine and they thought it was actually one of best bandits they ever tested and that it didn't even need a carb balance. I then said that it happens right away or at around 20miles +. They replied with ''Well we would have to do loads of tests on it and we don't want to rack up a large bill unnecessarily' At this point my head was about to pop but I just said that I'll just come pick it up and hopefully it will be fine from now on.
When I got there they basically said the same thing but then found out they didn't even take the bloody tank off to have a look :-/ Then they charged me £35 wtf? For what? to put 1l of fuel in and go for a little ride! I didn't say any of this to them just gritted my teeth and payed it. But yet again as soon as I leave the place its still the same
I've decided I ain't going to waste any more money on bloody garages and buy what ever tools I need, a manual and learn how to do it myself.
I don't really know what is causing the bike to act like this tho? Has anyone ever have a similar problem with a carbed bike and resolved it? I have a few Ideas on what it could be but I'm not sure...
1. Rubbish washers which didn't even have the holes in the right place (Ones I seen on eBay had holes nearer to the top rather than the middle like mines) and this has caused gunk to build up in the carbs.
2. Fuel filter: I can replace this with a hose as the rez and On have a gauze anyway.
3. The guy who put the kit in may have knocked something when he had the carbs out and needs taken part and inspected. I would want to do this myself so what tools would I need?
4. A rare problem I have seen with bandits and that fuel doesn't flow properly from the outlet because of a problem with the cap where the key goes in doesn't let air in causing a vaccume? Holding the petrol in the tank? Will maybe test this one out tomorrow.
Is there anything other than this what could be causing it? If their is what tools would I need to do the job properly?
The bike is a 2002 Suzuki Bandit 600s
Sorry for the long thread just trying to give as much information as possible =P Any other information you need ask and I'll add it.
Thanks for looking!
I bought the the bike mid may. It seemed immaculate for its year and it was a good price. Only had 13000 miles on it so I was a little weary at first but after a good look over everything and starting it from cold everything seemed great no noticable noises or anything. The bike was unrestricted when I bought it and I went on to ride it home (After getting insurance ofcourse) and it went like a dream.
Over the next few days I was contemplating not getting a restriction fitted but after some advice from you guys and my dad I just got it done. I got it fitted in a garage which my dad used for his car before but they had someone whocame in at night and worked on bikes + He was only going to charge me
£70. He showed me one of the washers which seemed clean and well made but he couldn't find the others so he made some up (which I never seen).
The second I pulled away from the garage there was a massive difference. I stalled twice coming out and another few times at traffic lights. The bike was just dyeing on me when I tried to pull away up to 20mph. Then there was no difference what I could feel from riding it unrestricted after that speed. The bike was warm and it was a dry day so I seen no reason for it doing this. To combat this problem I had to use the clutch and give it a lot more throttle. Pulling away like a bike should and filtering was just a no no. Hell even my shadow could get of the line easier and take less effort.
So I took it back to the guy and said all of this to him and he said Well your going to notice a difference going from 100bhp to 33bhp and then went on to say the fuel is properly hitting of the washer and coming back then going through due to the low force at slower speeds and that what was causing the problem and basically I would just have to live with it. I just agreed with him and left as I don't know a lot about bikes myself. :-/
Another problem was after the kit was put in the bike was harder to start and sometimes required more choke than usual. This started to get worse as time when on and if sometimes I didn't put the choke on and tried to start it would tick over for a few seconds then die and I would have to spend the best part of 5 mins trying to start it with the choke on then of then on
. Then around a month later the bike just refused to start at all and I got really sick of it as It was making me late for things and having to arrange other transport. So I took the restrict out and I was shocked. Three of the washers looked like they were made by a kid with a hacksaw and even had though sticker residue on parts of them. I was furious! The bike then ran like a dream for the next 20 miles or so then there was a problem which is really hard to explain but I'll try my best
when you twisted the throttle the bike seemed to choke and got no power at all for a few seconds then kick in then back to no power doing it constantly. I could still get up to speed but it was very hard to maintain a constant speed and accelerate. So I took of the tank again and a friend said it might be an air bubble in the fuel line so we filled the line up with then reconnected the tank, making sure no hoses were kinked. It ran fine again for around 60 miles then as soon as I left the petrol station with a full tank of fuel it started doing it again??
Taking the tank of again (after pumping all the bloody fuel out) and removing the fuel tap off from the tank and giving everything a good clean out then putting it all back together realsing it all looked fine it ran for maybe 30-40 miles over to my dads and leaving the bike for a day in some light showers it done it was doing it again.The bike would start fine even with the choke off but I always put it halfway until it was heated up.
The next day I gave the bike a full service with new spark plugs, castrol full synthetic oil, K&N air filter and K&N oil filter. Still ran the same but started and ticked over perfectly. I then decided to go to a garage and get the problem resolved by someone who knows what they are doing. I booked the bike in a week in advance, limped it down and behold... Starting running ok again just as I got there (around 30 miles). They said they will have a look at it anyway. After a few days I phoned and they haven't even looked at it but I thought it was ok they must just be busy. A week later from they day I booked it for they said they started it up and it did sound a little rough at first and then took it out and after a mile or so it was fine and they thought it was actually one of best bandits they ever tested and that it didn't even need a carb balance. I then said that it happens right away or at around 20miles +. They replied with ''Well we would have to do loads of tests on it and we don't want to rack up a large bill unnecessarily' At this point my head was about to pop but I just said that I'll just come pick it up and hopefully it will be fine from now on.
When I got there they basically said the same thing but then found out they didn't even take the bloody tank off to have a look :-/ Then they charged me £35 wtf? For what? to put 1l of fuel in and go for a little ride! I didn't say any of this to them just gritted my teeth and payed it. But yet again as soon as I leave the place its still the same
I've decided I ain't going to waste any more money on bloody garages and buy what ever tools I need, a manual and learn how to do it myself.
I don't really know what is causing the bike to act like this tho? Has anyone ever have a similar problem with a carbed bike and resolved it? I have a few Ideas on what it could be but I'm not sure...
1. Rubbish washers which didn't even have the holes in the right place (Ones I seen on eBay had holes nearer to the top rather than the middle like mines) and this has caused gunk to build up in the carbs.
2. Fuel filter: I can replace this with a hose as the rez and On have a gauze anyway.
3. The guy who put the kit in may have knocked something when he had the carbs out and needs taken part and inspected. I would want to do this myself so what tools would I need?
4. A rare problem I have seen with bandits and that fuel doesn't flow properly from the outlet because of a problem with the cap where the key goes in doesn't let air in causing a vaccume? Holding the petrol in the tank? Will maybe test this one out tomorrow.
Is there anything other than this what could be causing it?
If their is what tools would I need to do the job properly? The bike is a 2002 Suzuki Bandit 600s
Sorry for the long thread just trying to give as much information as possible =P Any other information you need ask and I'll add it.
Thanks for looking!
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Went to halfords and picked up some of their professional range screwdrivers £10 down from £20!