need help guys with a cpu!

[ollie2k13]

hey guys,
i want a cpu for my new build with 4-6cores and 6-8 threads but i dont wanna be overclocking my cpu..can anyone give me some advice on a cpu to get..also is it still work getting a i7 k series if i would not be overclocking?

 

[ollie2k13]

Whats the rest of your system and what do you need this pc for?

just solid bulletproof long hour gaming.. here is my rig spec

MSI GeForce GTX 780 Lightning 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card
Intel Core i7-4771 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail
Asus Z87 SABERTOOTH Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard Samsung 250GB SSD 840 EVO SATA 6Gb/s Basic
Corsair RM Series RM 650 '80+ Gold' 650W Power Supply
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-Bit
BitFenix Ronin Tower Case - Black
Kingston HyperX NA'VI 8GB (2x4GB) PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit **OcUK Exclusive*
Prolimatech Black Megahalems CPU Cooler
Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM
Samsung 250GB SSD 840 EVO SATA 6Gb/s Basic
Phanteks PH-F120S 120mm Fan - Black/White x2

i will be overclocking the gtx card in its normal bios, will not be pushing voltages, what do you guys think of the rig anything you would change?

 

[ollie2k13]

You compare items that are not on the same price level.

A 4770 makes more sense than a 2600K but both are twice as much than a FX8350 for +20% (4770) or same (2600K) the performance. (still the FX has 8 cores)

If money wasn't an issue, I would propose a 4930K. But that is twice as much as a 4770 for ~20% the perfomance.

from your grid of CPU's a i7 4770k is second from top ~ 3.5ghz, so why dont i just buy a i7 4771 @ 3.5ghz which is surely just the same but a little cheaper

 

[ollie2k13]

Because Asus boards have auto overclocking profiles, could just get a 4770K, then set it to 4.4GHZ with CPU level up and then forget about it.

so there is a overclock button on the board, i might aswell buy a highend motherboard then with the i7 4770k and just crank it up to 4ghz+ right?

 

[ollie2k13]

just say if i go for the i7 4771 because i really cant be bothered to overclock for just 10fps+ if not less increase, would the standard i7 4771 @ 3.50ghz be bottlenecking my GPU card msi 780 lightning which will be overclocked?

 

[ollie2k13]

I wouldn't run a stock i7 with a 780.

That's just me.

Say you add a second? You'll bottleneck loads, and you've got a locked i7 so there goes your resale value and options.

so your basically saying every CPU would need to be overclocked with anyone buying a highend graphics card?..so everyone with a second graphics card has a i7 overclocked?

 

[ollie2k13]

You could SLI on that setup and not bottleneck it.

but would 2x 780's overclocked bottleneck a lot the i7 4771? and also would i need a higher PSU then Seasonic X-Series 650w '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply?

 

[ollie2k13]

Money aside, yes 4771 is great, and no need to overclock it at all to use it with 1 or 2 GTX780. (or 290X).

That is was saying before, however my post was lost on FX8350 vs 4770 argument, without taking money as consideration.

If you can afford a 4771, then get it.

do you know if a i7 4771 is better then the i7 4770 considering they are both at the same price.. the i7 4771 is @ 3.50ghz and the i7 4770 is @ 3.40ghz but for some reason the i7 4770 is more popular i dunno why

 

[ollie2k13]

Fair enough, I guess it's up to the OP to decide if he's willing to pay more and willing to overclock.

FX-8350 just doesn't cut it imo, the likelihood that future games will use 8 weak cores is still at the mercy of devs, I'd go with a 4+ core multi-threaded Intel CPU. If devs don't implement 8 cores when coding games and software the GPU's will be majorly bottlenecked.

you are saying fair enough now when you just gave 2-3links saying that 2 gtx780 wouldnt bottleneck a i7 series

 

[ollie2k13]

isnt there a turbo mode on the i7 4771 where it can go higher then 3.50ghz