Need Help on building a pc. (around £600-£700)

[Robsie]

I plan on building a new pc (for gaming and Collegework/ Programming), but its been a while and i am unsure of compatibility of RAM and motherboards etc, i just wondered if i had made and monumentally stupid mistakes in selecting these components.

Processor: AMD Phenom II X4 Quad Core 965 Black Edition* 3.4Ghz Quad 146.99 http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-253-AM

RAM: Patriot Viper 4gb (2x2) 88.99 http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-019-PA&groupid=701&catid=8&subcat=1516

MotherBoard: Asus M4A785TD-V Evo AMD 785G 74.99 http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-355-AS

HDD: Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500Gb 39.99 http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-206-SE

PSU: OCZ ModXStream Pro 500w 56.99 http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-037-OC&groupid=701&catid=123&subcat=

CD/DVD Drive: LG GH22NS50 22x DVD±RW SATA ReWrite 22x 18.99 http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CD-094-LG&groupid=701&catid=10&subcat=

Graphics: Sapphire ATI Radeon HD 5770 1024MB 115.98 http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-216-SP&tool=3

Case: NZXT M59 Mid-Tower Windowed Case - Black ATX 46.99 http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-020-NX&groupid=701&catid=7&subcat=

Im also wondering if it would be worth spending £60 extra on a HD5830 instead of a HD5770.

XFX ATI Radeon HD 5830* http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-168-XF&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=1711 174.99

Thanks In advance for any advice you may have.

 

[stulid]

how about this ram if you ever plan to overclock?

www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-180-OC&groupid=701&catid=8&subcat=1517

and this motherboard if you wanted to add a second card later on

www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-366-AS&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=1481

apart from that everything else is fine, don't bother with a 5830, its performance advantage is not worth the money.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

This is what I would get:

AMD Phenom II X4 955BE ~ £128

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-244-AM

Asus M4A89GTD PRO ~ £108

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-392-AS&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=1782

Has a split 8+2 phase VRM with cooling,6 SATA 3.0 ports, all solid capacitors and does symmetrical Crossfire at PCI-E 2.0 8X/8X. Uses the SB850 southbridge.

OR

Asus M4A79XTD Evo ~ £90

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-366-AS&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=1481

Has a split 8+2 phase VRM with cooling,all solid capacitors and does symmetrical Crossfire at PCI-E 2.0 8X/8X. Uses the SB750 southbridge.

4GB low latency 1600MHZ DDR3 ~ £90

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-180-OC&groupid=701&catid=8&subcat=1517

HD5770 1GB ~ £116

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-216-SP

Zalman Z7 Plus Midi Tower Case ~ £43

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-033-ZA

Samsung F3 1TB ~ £58

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-082-SA

Pioneer SATA DVD rewriter ~ £19

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-006-IN

Antec TruePower New Modular 650W Power Supply ~ £77

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-117-AN

The Antec PSU I have listed is made by Seasonic and is a better unit than the current OCZ ones at a similar price IMHO. There is also the cheaper 550W version for around £70.

A pair of HD5770 1GB cards can be as fast as an HD5870 1GB.

The total comes to around £621 to £639 excluding delivery.

You could add an SSD such as the following if required:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-006-IN

I assume you have a copy of an OS.

 

[mattjd]

Considering the price of the 5830 has gone down to a more sensible price now I think its worth getting

I also agree with the OCZ RAM its a much better manufacture. Also change the HDD to a Samsung F3 Spinpoint for the same price

 

[Robsie]

Thanks for the advice !, so would i be better off buying a 5830, or getting one 5770 now, and then in a couple of months (When funds are adequate) to get another one and run two?

 

[mattjd]

Get whichever one you can afford. If you can buy a 5830 or even a 5850 get that.

 

[stulid]

either go all out and buy a 5850, or buy one 5770 now and another later.

5830=sucks, still to much money, even at £160.

 

[Robsie]

Thanks, this has helped a lot, one last question, the two mother boards listed Bellow,


Asus M4A89GTD PRO ~ £108

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...=5&subcat=1782

Has a split 8+2 phase VRM with cooling,6 SATA 3.0 ports, all solid capacitors and does symmetrical Crossfire at PCI-E 2.0 8X/8X. Uses the SB850 southbridge.

OR

Asus M4A79XTD Evo ~ £90

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...=5&subcat=1481

Has a split 8+2 phase VRM with cooling,all solid capacitors and does symmetrical Crossfire at PCI-E 2.0 8X/8X. Uses the SB750 southbridge.

Is there a major difference between them, and is it worth spending £20 more for the £108 One ?

 

[stulid]

the first has a newer chipset with SATA 3.0, for a few pounds more there is also one with USB3.0

or you can buy this, which is the same price, has sata and usb 3.0, with the newer chipset.

www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-251-GI&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=1782

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Here is a comparison of the Gigabyte and Asus 890GX motherboards:

http://techreport.com/articles.x/18539

The Asus does seem to have better overclocking ability and more consistent I/O performance. OTH,it depends on whether these are really that important to you. Some other reviews seem more favourable about the Gigabyte motherboard though.

 

[Robsie]

This will all fit in a case right ? i don't like the idea of having to saw the case to pieces and file things.

 

[stulid]

yes, either of the the ones suggested will fit

 

[stulid]

i7 build?

 

[Robsie]

Is there a massive performance difference with the I7 ?

 

[stulid]

Is there a massive performance difference with the I7 ?

yes!!

overclock it= goodbye AMD!

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

I would probably look at a better PSU TBH.

Here is some more info about the PSU:

http://www.jonnyguru.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6424

The 750W version seems to be not that great:

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/917/1

If you are staying with Coolermaster the Cooler Master Silent Pro range is better (seems to have got good reviews) or one of the Antec Truepower or Corsair units.

 

[Robsie]

This is a conglomeration of whats been suggested across a few forums:

AMD Phenom II X4 Quad Core 955 Black Edition 3.20GHz (Socket AM3) - Retail
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-244-AM

£127.98


Sapphire ATI Radeon HD 5770 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-216-SP

£115.98

Asus M4A79XTD Evo (Socket AM3) DDR3 Motherboard
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-366-AS

£89.99

OCZ Gold Low Voltage 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C8 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (OCZ3G1600lV4GK)
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-180-OC

£89.98

OCZ ModXStream Pro 600w Silent SLI Certified Modular Power Supply
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-031-OC

£63.99

Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB SATA-II 32MB Cache - OEM (HD103SJ)
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-082-SA

£57.97

Zalman Z7 Plus Midi Tower Case - Black
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-033-ZA

£42.99

Pioneer DVR-S18L 22x DVD±RW SATA Labelflash ReWriter - Black (Retail)
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CD-069-PO

£18.99

£608 Excluding delivery

+ windows 7 pro £70

Unless i have done something really stupid (I'm fairly paranoid about things being incompatible etc.) but this is what i'm edging toward.

 

[stulid]

it will all work together.

 

[Robsie]

Excellent!, thanks everyone, one final thing, i dont need to buy screws or cpu heatsinks etc , do i? they all come with the components ? and all i need i have included above?

 

[stulid]

screws come with the case.

heatsink is in the cpu box, with thermal paste already applied.

sata cables come in the motherboard box