Need help re: permissions

Clark Nova · 7 Feb 2006 at 20:58

I'm trying to install Opera on my computer but am running into a problem. I go to the console and navigate to the folder with the installation files in and type:

./install.sh

It asks me if I want to proceed with the installation but then tells me I do not have write access to the folder /etc.

Please try to spare me any jargon, I'm really new to Linux so if you could make the answer as "dumbed down" as possible it will really help me. I want to get into Linux but am finding installations a bit daunting at the moment. I am using Ubuntu 5.10 for x64 if that helps at all

Dunky · 7 Feb 2006 at 21:13

Go to the directory where install.sh is and type: sudo sh install.sh and when it asks for a password type your password (the one you use to login).

The reason is that root has control of nearly all folders apart from your home directory (i.e ~/ or /home/<username>) so you must install as root to put files in directories such as /usr or /etc . To run the program once installed, you will NOT have to be root (i.e type sudo before the command) since you are just reading data in the 'root owned' directories and any personal settings will be saved to your home directory.

Clark Nova · 7 Feb 2006 at 21:48

Thanks very much Dunky, it's installed now as far as I can see but I can't find any shortcuts to launch the program with. This is what happened when I installed Opera:

Files will be installed as follows:
-----------------------------------------------------------
Wrapper Script : /usr/bin
Binaries : /usr/lib/opera/8.51-20051114.6
Plugins : /usr/lib/opera/plugins
Shared files : /usr/share/opera
Documentation : /usr/share/doc/opera
-----------------------------------------------------------
Is this correct [ y,n,c | yes,no,cancel ] ?
y

System wide configuration files:
/etc/opera6rc
/etc/opera6rc.fixed
would be ignored if installed with the prefix "/usr".
Do you want to install them in /etc [ y,n | yes,no ] ?
y

Any suggestions? Thanks again for your help

**edited for a typo**

whitecrook · 7 Feb 2006 at 22:21

type opera

Clark Nova · 8 Feb 2006 at 19:18

whitecrook said:
type opera

Sorry, I'm not up to speed with this still

Which folder do I need to be in when I type it? I've searched through loads of folders but I can't seem to find anything that will launch the program.

Thanks

Dunky · 8 Feb 2006 at 19:35

Open up a terminal window (Accessories > Terminal) and just type: opera (I think). It doesn't matter what folder you are in. This is because the installer puts a sym link (bit like a shortcut) in /usr/bin and any command you type, if it's not found in the current directory then it will check /usr/bin so see if it's there. Most programs will put a shortcut in /usr/bin to allow you to run the program from anywhere

Clark Nova · 8 Feb 2006 at 19:44

Still doesn't seem to be working Dunky

This is what I get when I follow your instructions:

cd bin
simon@Desktop:/usr/bin$ opera
ERROR: ld.so: object 'libjvm.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
ERROR: ld.so: object 'libawt.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
/usr/lib/opera/8.51-20051114.6/opera: error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
simon@Desktop:/usr/bin$

I don't know have a clue what much of that means but I'm guessing it's not installed correctly. Can you help any further? It's greatly appreciated, I'm not a big fan of Firefox and I use Opera from Windows so if I can get it working it will make it so much easier for me to switch

Mr Potatohead · 8 Feb 2006 at 20:01

I would wager that

Code:

sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt

would solve at least some of your problems.

Edit: you can type that in anywhere, you don't need to be in any specific directory.

Clark Nova · 8 Feb 2006 at 20:07

Mr Potatohead said:
I would wager that

Code:

sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt

would solve at least some of your problems.

Edit: you can type that in anywhere, you don't need to be in any specific directory.

Thanks very much, it's certainly done something:

simon@Desktop:/usr/bin$ sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt
Password:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Suggested packages:
libqt3-mt-psql libqt3-mt-mysql libqt3-mt-odbc
The following NEW packages will be installed:
libqt3-mt
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 3605kB of archives.
After unpacking 11.6MB of additional disk space will be used.
Get:1 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main libqt3-mt 3:3.3.4-8ubuntu5 [3605kB]
Fetched 3605kB in 29s (122kB/s)

Preconfiguring packages ...
Selecting previously deselected package libqt3-mt.
(Reading database ... 59729 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking libqt3-mt (from .../libqt3-mt_3%3a3.3.4-8ubuntu5_amd64.deb) ...
Setting up libqt3-mt (3.3.4-8ubuntu5) ...

simon@Desktop:/usr/bin$ opera
ERROR: ld.so: object 'libjvm.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
ERROR: ld.so: object 'libawt.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
/usr/lib/opera/8.51-20051114.6/opera: error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
simon@Desktop:/usr/bin$ sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt

But as you can see it is still not working when I type "opera" in usr/bin. What else do I need to do now? Thanks to all for your help with this

Mr Potatohead · 8 Feb 2006 at 23:49

Well, that didn't work, but i can see a solution that should

http://www.opera.com/download/
has a platform selection drop-down box - select ubuntu and press download.

Open a terminal (and if neccessary, navigate to the directory you saved the .deb of opera to) and type

Code:

sudo dpkg -i (name of the download)

Edit: hopefully this will replace the opera files currently on your computer. If the installer you used originally can uninstall, do this first.

Clark Nova · 9 Feb 2006 at 00:12

Thanks Mr Potatohead, I think that would work but it says it doesn't support the architecture I am using, ie it's only for i386 and not for AMD64 systems. I think I might have to uninstall this version of Ubuntu and install the 32-bit version instead because there are so many things that I can't get installed easily such as Flash, Opera and a few other things which escape me now.

Thanks again, I'm not going to give up yet. I'll come back to this thread in the morning after I've downloaded the 32-bit ISO and try again.

Mr Potatohead · 9 Feb 2006 at 00:24

Ahhh, crap, why must I assume everyone uses x86. Sorry

leezer3 · 9 Feb 2006 at 00:27

Have a read of this thread-
http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75940.html
Should tell you how to get it working properly (Can't be bothered to type it out

)

Cheers

-Leezer-

Vonhelmet · 9 Feb 2006 at 12:06

You're missing a Java virtual machine. You need to install that. This should do it:

sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5

Failing that, try apt-cache search j2re and see what you can find.

Clark Nova · 15 Feb 2006 at 09:33

Well, I sorted it out quite easily in the end. I reinstalled Linux as the i386 version of Ubuntu 5.10. Then I ran the Automatix script and it gave me the option to install Opera and the script just did it for me. So now I am pretty much down to using Ubuntu only, just going back into Windows to play games and the such but I'm looking at installing Wine and seeing if I can get them running ok under that this weekend :cool:

Thanks everyone

FirebarUK · 15 Feb 2006 at 12:39

To be honest if your really into your games you'll have to keep Windows.
Wine wont fair too well (from experience), but Cedega isnt so bad (based on Wine but with lots of tweaks) - you have to pay a subscription for this though. Dont necessarily expect games to run as fast as they do in Windows.