Need some advice surrounding a problematic brother (long thread)

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Hi all,

Its not secret for anyone who knows me that my relationship with my brother has been somewhat strained over the years. And I have debated writing this thread many times but tonight I found out some more information which has tipped me over the edge. Right now I am really feeling a strong need to help my parents who are at a complete loss of what to do with him and I fear it may push my already mentally not very stable Mum to do something which can't be taken back.

Some background...he is 28, 3 years younger than me. He was always the kid at school which caused trouble at school, had a serious problem with authority. Many run ins from the law even at young teenage age. He was taking and dealing drugs by the time he was 15. All of this compacted by the fact my parents were going through an incredibly rough and long drawn out divorce so he was left to run riot to his own liking.

After he finished school, he had little interest in holding down a job. Wanted all the money to do whatever he wanted. Didn't want to work for it. Would work 3 weeks, demand some kind of promotion when walk out whilst flipping off the manager, that kind of behaviour.

When he got a car and a license he began drug running for years and was also well into taking whatever they would give him. Including being fully hooked on Heroin for a long time. We all knew what was going on, did what we could to manage and separate ourselves from it. Police claimed they were unable to do anything at the time.

To give you an example of some of his kind of behaviours, he was kicked out of my Mums place when gang members had come around breaking windows to threaten him as he had taken some of the supply and she refused to talk to him. During this weekend he rang me 50+ times (and that isn't an exaggeration, I noted it all down) and he was threatening to come to mine and all the rest of it, I had to get a restraining order against him etc.

Anyway, fast forward a few years of this **** like hell he put us all through, and finally karma gets him and he is arrested by the police with possession of a firearm, drug trafficking, and GBH. Given an 8 year sentence and we all breathed a sigh of relief.

Quite simply put, this time he was inside, was the most peaceful time for all of us. We were all happy about it. Could actually lead some kind of a normal life as well.

While he was inside, the system seemed to do something. They got him clean, he seemed to straighten out a bit. And he served 4 out of 8 years then was released in November on probation.

Dad took him in (Dad has since remarried) gave him a job at his company, a car and a hobby (model power boating, more on that in a moment) - literally a complete fresh start, probably the best that anyone could be offered in that instance.

Everything was fine for a few months. Dad was taking him boating literally every weekend (his thought was if he was keeping him occupied outside of work he wouldn't go back to his old habits and people he used to hang out with)

He kept the job for 3 months, then started turning up late, started telling others he could do what he wanted as his Dad owned the place etc. Started disappearing off for hours at a time and nobody knew where he was, we all knew the signs. We were sure he was up to no good again.

It got to early May when behaviour with him just kept on deteriorating both inside and outside of work (the boating continued as a last hope) but his behaviour was becoming increasingly erratic. Say the wrong word to him and the next thing you know and he is shaking with anger and threatening to kill you, like some kind of light switch in his head had been turned.

Anyway, still in early May, Dad fires him. Gives him his notice and says he needs to find work elsewhere. As his behaviour wasn't acceptable. The following 2 weeks he continued with more erratic behaviour. At this point he just gets ignored because we're all frankly, fed up with him. Then on May 21st Dad gets a phone call. Brother has crashed his car (completely written it off) and the police attended the seen, he has failed a drug test on the side of the road, so was being taken to the hospital to have blood taken from him. He tested positive for cocaine in his system (by the test on the side of the road)

Now this is where the real problems began. So from here, he is still out on probation, and he has just been found to be driving under the influence of drugs. The family were told that once the hospital process the blood test results, if he tests positives for drugs in the system, the police would turn up and take him without notice. This has sent his anxiety off into overdrive.

Constantly repeating himself, saying he is on a "time limit" and wanting to take his boat sailing at every single opportunity to a point where it has turned into an obsession as he is convinced each day is the last day he will get to do it.

What also came to light is that he has been put on prescribed methadone to whine him off whatever he was taking before + anti anxiety medication he has also been ordering various meds online and been self medicating. So really its not a wonder he is all over the place all the time.

As far as I am concerned, he 6ft 4, 20 stone ticking timebomb. Say the wrong thing to him and the mist will descend, then he will do something you can't take back. I am genuinely concerned for those in close proximity to him. My parents are at a complete loss of what to do and he is completely out of control. Part of the issue is also my Dad is away for work constantly right now, so he is worried about my step mum and her kids in case he snaps.

Anyway, thats the LONG context of where we are right now.

I feel like I need to do something here. Parents are at a loss on what to do with him. A completely exhausted loss and they're waiting for the drug test results to come through and him be carted off in a meat wagon. And the other thing is, what if he gets away with it, somehow? They don't know what to do.

So I turn to the collective of OcUK. What authorities can be contacted? Maybe I have seen too many movies, but IMO he needs to be forced into rehab and a forced detox. As he is just way too unstable with all the crap he is constantly putting through his body right now. Its a wonder he has not had a heart attack.

I have genuine cause for concern for those around him. I know he admitted to me in confidence he attempted to take his own life (I don't actually believe him) - but I wondered if that could be used to classify him as a danger to himself to get some more serious measures taken. He is a danger to the public IMO.

I also wonder if anyone who might know more (I know there is a Bobby or two on the forum) - if there is an official time limit for how long the hospital & police can take to get back to us with the results of the blood test?

Thanks for reading if you made it this far. Any thoughts or advice are welcome.

Jake
 
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Difficult to know what to suggest. I was going to suggest spending time with him in a manner that is completely detached from his problems - just hang out. Maybe he is just lacking an emotional sponge, someone to hear his pain and just say “yes - I know” without offering any advice nor criticism.

But if he is so wound up that you fear he will hurt you, stay clear. If he is really that self-destructive then it sounds like he’ll get himself into trouble before too long and the problem will be taken off your hands.

Beyond being patient (and perhaps notifying the police of your concerns if you expect immediate harm, 999 style) what he does is not your responsibility nor your fault. No doubt you have your own problems to solve so don’t forget about you.
Thanks for yours and everyones words.

Being around him, he seems to have little interest in having an emotional sponge. He is so fiercely focused on sailing his boat and absolutely nothing else that that is all he wants to talk about. He is not interested in hanging out or spending time with others. I do often wonder where his empathy levels sit and if he has some kind of sociopathic problem with interacting with others.

Personally I have little interaction with him. I am in the UK once every couple of months, but I am a sounding board for my parents who are just looking for some desperate plea for help. I figured with the internet at my fingers I could put a bit of time in to try to find out what I could. I just found out the type of drug test he would have been administered for example. But haven't found anything regarding any deadline about the result.

Right now, calling the police and sharing the experiences I had with him last week and using that as a grounds for thinking he is a threat might be enough to do it. That is my thinking at least. I am convinced it is a matter of time before he hurts someone, be it me or someone else.
 
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Thanks everyone for the messages and kind words.

To answer some questions. He currently lives between my two parents places. At the minute as Dad is away for work during the week (it genuinely is his busiest time of year) he stays with Mum and on the weekend with Dad. If Dad is home during the week its more or less a 50/50 split between them. He cannot be trusted to stay at my Dads place without my Dad aronud so its out of the question at the moment.

Moving those I care away from him is not realistically feasible. He is the one which needs to be removed.

That should be the case, 8 years, 4 served and 4 probation... I would imagine that drug driving is a breach of his probation meaning he would need to serve the remainder of his sentence at least.

This is exactly what I am hoping for. Can someone tell me, I have been out of the UK for a number of years now so I am not sure. Is there a number I can call to speak with the police for some advice on the situation? I know there is a non-emergency number but I am not sure if this covers this kind of need? I can only think the police is the best place to go. Like I can say I know we are waiting for the results but in the meantime, this is what has been happening, maybe it might speed things up a bit.
 
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To update you all. I contacted the Essex Police Switchboard and explained the situation and emphasised that due to these pending results from the accident in May he is behaving more and more erratically and aggressively, is there any way we can get more information on how long this is going to take. She was very helpful, she looked up the incident, found it, and also found the officer in charge. She has emailed him with my contact information asking him to call me ASAP. I feel then once I get the OIC on the phone I can drive home whats really going on and my hoping is that this new information might cause some prioritization and speed things up a bit.

Called Dad afterwards and explained what I have done he was genuinely thankful and will call me back later tonight.
 
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Regarding the rehab/detox thoughts. In my head I want this to happen because currently its not possible to speak to my brother about anything remotely serious as you don't know how he will react, he barely remembers the day before due to his self medicated mixture of prescribed medications + whatever else he decides on the day to put him through. My thought is, IF you could at least (even if forced) get his head clear, you might be able to talk to him with some conviction and begin putting him on a better path because he might be able to think straight.

But regardless of that, that is outside of my power of what can be done. Speaking with the Police and trying to get some traction for them to take action is something I can do.
 
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Update on this one.

Since the last time posting here, I was able to reach the officer in charge who established to me that my brother would be given a decision whether or not he would be summoned to court or with no further charges being pressed, they then updated my brother and that seemed to calm him down significantly. It seemed to settle his nerves a bit which gave everyone a much needed break.

Since then, there has been more developments much of which is more personal than legal that I don't really want to delve into however there is a development I am not sure on and could do with any advice from those with experience (any police around?)

Brother has been given a court date. October 10th. He has failed his drug test, therefore been summoned to court for prosecution. Now, when we found out this news, honestly...it came as a relief for us all, we're all convinced he is going back inside and glad for it.

Now, here is the difficult bit. On Monday (and I apologise if these details are not complete) Mum called to say that he isn't going back inside, the reason she seems convinced of this is (punch line time) his parole officer(s) have said it is their responsibility for not taking enough action to keep him on the straight and narrow. Therefore they assume responsibility?

Now...I have never heard of something like this. Is this even possible? Googling doesn't bring me much info that helps. Regardless, it seems he is still being summoned to court.

So there are a few questions we're left with...

- As mentioned, can the parole board assume this responsibility?
- If thats possible, where does that leave him with the pending court summons and charges? Ultimately he's still breached his parole. Also admitted guilt to driving under the influence to the police which attended the scene

I guess we're just looking for a bit of help on what to expect come next week. Anything is welcome

Thanks all
 
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Thanks for your replies, advice and support. Sometimes getting it off my chest does help indeed.

And also thanks for the comments RE the court and parole, it makes more sense now.
 
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