Need to upgrade my i5-2500K to something up to date

[MartinPrince]

Note you are choosing to ignore the actual content, showing you didn't read the Op's post. *Thumbs up, great job and all that chap*

FYI clarifying you KEEP SAYiNG EXPORT when that was NOT said. Stop saying EXPORT!!!!

Now who's the one that needs to chill!

I use Photoshop pretty much every day. You can do batch imports but this really doesn't take up much time and is dependant on the speed of your I/O and subsystem as much as anything and is more a single threaded task. Batch exports on the other hand will be the one that will test your CPU speed and this is where the OP will feel the age of the 2500K more than anything. We will wait for him to confirm but I will go with my understanding until proven otherwise.

 

[Journey]

Goodness me, your skipping and missing out of the obvious in order to make your point right is just surprising.

How the hell did I skip it, I said and clarified " looking into doing some entry level video edititing" the part in brackets is to say what it would be for if they were going to do it (for my ecommerce business - making youtube videos).

All I can conclude is that you have very little experience in actually using Photoshop or editing videos to upload for YouTube. These tasks are either fully multithreaded or very highly threaded which makes a statement like "12600KF would decimate the 3900X" palpably false contextually and daft, especially coming from you.

What's with the especially coming from me crap in every post, why are you personally attacking me? You didn't read the OP, got your head stuck in with EXPORTS, even made two dedicated images to show EXPORTS, when the just said lots of batch processes in Photoshop. I linked benchmark from Puget showing a 12600KF almost matching a 5900X which is at least 20% faster than a 3900X, and the 12600KF costs £250 brand new with a warranty, vs a used 3900X that might work with no warranty at all. How is that not decimate? 20% No... ignoring that one again are we? In the context of NOT JUST EXPORTS, which you made up.

It's literally infuriating when people make up words that were not said then run thought it as their entire point, so no I don't need to chill, you could be the bigger man and admit you were wrong and mis-read the OP's post and didn't realise that EXPORTS were not mentioned.

Otherwise just stop replying and don't mention me please, if you are just trying to be antagonistic and deliberately ignore what was being said.

EDIT: Since apparently a batch process can only 99% of the time be an export, I beg the question when using the using a specific 'action' with the automate -> batch -> command for many other process on a whole folder of images, examples being, import, resize, rotate, lens correction, apply a filter, sharpen, noise reduction and many, many other things that can be automated and done as a "batch process" export being the last thing done in that chain, and the least time consuming when you add the rest together. So yeah, I know utterly nothing about PS and batch processing, only that I spend less time exporting that I do anything else when doing it in batches. I guess maybe you've never processed a 48 hour time lapse before, with 17k+ images, as one example.

Try and deflect away from it all you like as you are the one deflecting, you assumed they meant export, but you can't see that it a tiny amount of the batch possibility and being called out on your error is something you can't admit to for some weird reason. If you are saying you don't know how powerful batch process can be, then maybe I can assist you in some way.

 

[MartinPrince]

First of all why don't you take your own advice and "Chill".

Getting angry or moving away from the point is just another form of deflection.

Back to the point:

Like I said, as a frequent user of Photoshop, I'm 99% sure the OP is referring to exports. Why would I need to apologise for what is pretty obvious to me and would also be to you if you used Photoshop regularly. Which reminds me, @Golf1.6 if you are not using an SSD for your files then I strongly recommend one.

Also, if you had done any basic video editing you'd know that even the most basic of edits requires a full encode. You can cut out little segments here and there and use a 'copy' command but anything more than that requires a full encode/transcode. This as shown by the graphs you linked will use lots of threads. The fact that he will be doing it for his business tells me that he will be investing more time into this as he is earning money from it. As somebody that has run a video production business from scratch I maybe able to empathise with the path he might follow.

Making statements like, 'about video editing, "might look into" doesn't mean is doing it' is just more deflection. Just silly. We just need to answer his question about what CPU is good for video, not decide if he really intends to do it or not. Surely!

This reminds me of making utility calls to those off shore call centres in the far flung corners of the world. You tell them your issue and they respond with an almost pre-scripted answer that shows that they really don't understand exactly what you are asking.

I'm just building a system for somebody who pretty much only uses Lightroom and DXO Photolab. What CPU am I putting in? A 12600K (with a decent GPU). Though for the OP, with his stated criteria of:

"I'm not looking for anything brand new, looking to buy used off auction"
"...doing a lot of batch processes..."
"...doing some entry level video edititing (for my ecommerce business - making youtube videos"

Then the 3900X with MSI Tomhawk (Max) motherboard is his best bet. To choose a 11400f/12400 over that is simply not wise.

 

[Cyber-Mav]

you can use gpu assist for video encoding/editing. intel quicksync is good for this too. just work with higher bitrates so no quality loss and then upload to youtube which does its own compression.

 

[MartinPrince]

you can use gpu assist for video encoding/editing. intel quicksync is good for this too. just work with higher bitrates so no quality loss and then upload to youtube which does its own compression.

This was very true for Premiere Pro a few years ago when Quicksync made such a big difference so that iirc something like a 8700k would be faster than a Threadripper.

From what I understand the newer versions of Premiere Pro the Quicksync advantage is no longer there as it can leverage all GPU's but I haven't used Premier Pro for a while so the OP would have to read up on that if he uses it. Though Premier Pro is not a basic editor - even though you can do basic edits in it. I'm a bit old school so use AviDemux for basic edits and I'm still even using VirtualDub2 which is really old school!

Your point is very salient as the GPU can make a difference also in photo editing. I have run Puget's benchmark for both Photoshop and Lightroom with and without the GPU and the points difference is quite noticeable.

Though from having GPU-Z and Task Manager open at the same time and trying to see which actions using the GPU or CPU, batch processing, especially if you've got a few adjustments applied to each photo, still mainly uses the CPU and is mulithreaded, so will use all available threads.

This is what makes @Tetras recommendation almost a no brainer.