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Webspace Unlimited

Webspace Unlimited

Webspace Unlimited

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Now I live in a rural community, we have poor landline connection - too far from exchange and or too far from cabinet - so connection speeds are very slow - 2-3mbps
Now there is airband available giving 40mbps but not available if not in line of site of the transmitter
We have one holiday cottage that can receive airband but not the main house about 300 yards away
So..
My thoughts are to use a LAN bridge to connect the two different buildings on the farm
Has anyone got recommendations as to the best hardware to use, anything I should look out for that might cause problems?
Thanks in advance for the replies/
 
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Webspace Unlimited said:
the mobile phone is very poor service in this area - its fast when it works but.. can drop far too easily
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Ok

If your not running a cable to your main house then a point to point antenna mite be a solution as long as you have direct line of site between properties.

I'll try to get this thread moved to the network section of the forum where people will have better knowledge than myself.

@Maccy @ci_newman can you please move this to network, tx .
 
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Thank you. Yes line of sight. I am thinking about LAN bridge.
My basic understanding is using a LAN bridge each end and a router each end for wifi in each property
BUT would welcome knowing how successful this is in practice and what I might need to consider.
Thanks for the help.
 
Webspace Unlimited said:
Thank you. Yes line of sight. I am thinking about LAN bridge.
My basic understanding is using a LAN bridge each end and a router each end for wifi in each property
BUT would welcome knowing how successful this is in practice and what I might need to consider.
Thanks for the help.
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You only need an access point/extender rather than a router, but it's not much cheaper so router might be better for management features anyway I guess.

Normal Ethernet isn't great at 250m distance, you'll need some switches/repeaters, outdoor/shielded cable, whatever digging/trunking you decide upon, or use a fibre and convert on each end. A high enough rated ethernet cable will probably do 100mbps at that length though, if that's all that's needed to be shared. Not sure on pricing.

Or, just use WiFi point to point dishes, watch out for hordes of flying things then I guess .
 
Ch3m1c4L said:
You only need an access point/extender rather than a router, but it's not much cheaper so router might be better for management features anyway I guess.

Normal Ethernet isn't great at 250m distance, you'll need some switches/repeaters, outdoor/shielded cable, whatever digging/trunking you decide upon, or use a fibre and convert on each end. A high enough rated ethernet cable will probably do 100mbps at that length though, if that's all that's needed to be shared. Not sure on pricing.

Or, just use WiFi point to point dishes, watch out for hordes of flying things then I guess .
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a router risks double NAT.

For ease I'd be looking at a 2.4G/5G link due to the low bandwidth requirements. 2.4GHz has less issues with not exact line of sight.

It's not the sort of kit I'd use myself but a friend has successfully used TP-Link CPE210 Pharos Outdoor 2.4Ghz and then you'd be looking at installing an access point within the building without the internet connection currently.

This would mean you'd have one logical network however.

Point to Points are incredibly reliable providing you have line of sight, I have deployed absolutely loads, usually use Ubiquiti kit as of late, something like a Ubiquiti NBE-5AC-Gen2 NanoBeam. If I'm being honest though and you're hosting this for guests, I'd suggest getting a professional in who is in the industry and who can configure guest isolation at a minimum.
 
no its more me sticking the office in one building and sharing the connection with the house so a private network isnt necessary :)
appreciate the thoughts
I have to confess I did this years back with old intro red and b/c connections BUT things have moved on a lot in the last 25 - 30 years so just getting myself back up to sepeed as it were
Seeing things like the TPlinks you mention here or I was looking at Amazon and there were UeeVii at about the £90 mark which seems to be too easy
It then raised the question of running two routers - (I have a spare router here already) or to use a wifi extender - I guess the extender means the phones iPads etc have just the one network network to contend with and sharing any cameras in the animal sheds becomes simple
 
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no its more me sticking the office in one building and sharing the connection with the house so a private network isnt necessary :)
appreciate the thoughts
I have to confess I did this years back with old intro red and b/c connections BUT things have moved on a lot in the last 25 - 30 years so just getting myself back up to sepeed as it were
Seeing things like the TPlinks you mention here or I was looking at Amazon and there were UeeVii at about the £90 mark which seems to be too easy
It then raised the question of running two routers - (I have a spare router here already) or to use a wifi extender - I guess the extender means the phones iPads etc have just the one network network to contend with and sharing any cameras in the animal sheds becomes simple
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Yeah the TP link kit really is keep it simple stupid from what I know, but to be honest so is the Ubiquiti kit if you buy it pre-configured.

I'd recommend an access point in the other building, something like a U6-Lite from Ubiquiti but of course, most Wireless Access Points will serve you fine... trying to be vendor neutral here :)

My engineers put up PtPs quite quickly and learn how to do them easily, honestly it's quite a doddle.
 
Webspace Unlimited said:
thank you excellent help and advice here :)
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No worries, due to forum rules I can't link to companies, but there's a company online that will pre-configure the Ubiquiti kit, if you search Ubiquiti NBE-5AC-Gen2 NanoBeam AC Outdoor 5GHz 19dBi WiFi 5 Point-to-Point Link Kit, Pre-Configured (450Mbps AC) - you should find it.

The UniFi U6 Lite will require a PoE Injector, that will power the access point at the remote end, if you've got a mobile phone you can configure it using their app to have the same SSID and Pre-Shared Key as your home network meaning everything will simply just work :)
 
thank you again I have found a company thats uk based and does next day and preconfigured for £26 and sells the mounting brackets for an extra £15
just researching the U6 Lite and seems you have a perfect solution so going to order that and see if I can fit it before the weekend
 
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silly question but the TP Links CPE210 - does this need a powered ethernet port at both ends?
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Yes it will do, but they come with passive PoE adaptors (24V)

It's also worth considering CPE510 V3.20, that is 5GHz which is more suceptible to a couple of things, it won't penetrate foliage as well and it also has to adhere to radar regulations and uses something called DFS (Dynamic Frequency Selection) but it will give you greater bandwidth in the future if B4RN or the like can get you better WAN Connectivity :)
 
Webspace Unlimited said:
B4rn .. ive looked.. is awesome 1gb as standard and underground cabling so avoids all the issues we get here with foliage and overhead cabling.
we have airband who are rolling out fibreto premises locally.. b4rn isnt in wales yet.
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Yeah keep an eye out on the FTTP. I work closely with the guys in the industry and they are achieving an awful lot! :)
 
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