new 2011-3 CPU's??

bigmunkey3741 · 17 Jul 2015 at 15:20

When the 5xxx CPU's came out for the 2011-3 socket, there was talk of a newer set of CPU's coming out for the same socket later on... but all has gone a little silent on that front.

Anyone know any different?

hearing loads about the new 1150 replacements and that kinda thing, but nothing about the new top end chips. :'(

Sylver123 · 17 Jul 2015 at 15:51

Broadwell-E was supposedly meant to be getting released for 2011-3 socket on Q1 next year thought some news suggests Intel might
cancel Broadwell-E in favor of bringing the new Skylake-E platform forward earlier.

This hasn't been confirmed through and is more or less speculation / rumours at the moment.

I guess we just have to wait and see what happens early next year.

I sure hope there is another processor refresh for X99 2011-3 socket platform or this platform will be considered dead already.

Jokester · 17 Jul 2015 at 15:54

It seems likely that Broadwell-E is going to get ditched, given Broadwell is pretty much canned as well. It'll largely depend on whether Skylake-E is on schedule. No doubt Skylake-E will be a new socket as well.

Caracus2k · 17 Jul 2015 at 18:09

Even if there is no drop in replacement for x99 to replace the 5xxx series it will still be the goto choice for some time for those looking for more cores than the mainstream range. Skylakes confirmed to be four core only and I would not put it past Intel to keep the core count at a maximum off four for the mainstream processors to at least cannolake and possibly beyond. Early leaks of skylake performance don't look particularly promising if your not concerned about igpu performance or a lower tdp... Looks like a repeat of haswell and Ivybridge with there somewhat lacklustre improvements over Sandybridge. Don't regret my 5820k at all has half as many cores as the best mainstream chip and clocks pretty well with it. The next -e platform won't likely be out now till 2017 in any event

UTmaniac · 17 Jul 2015 at 18:45

Looks as if we could be having to choose our path here, unless of course you are a regular upgrader to the new tech...
X99 for 6-8 cores with the 5xxx series
Z170 "Skylake" for 4 cores (at last in the short term), but new features like PCI-E4.0

PhoenixSP · 18 Jul 2015 at 03:41

UTmaniac said:
Looks as if we could be having to choose our path here, unless of course you are a regular upgrader to the new tech...
X99 for 6-8 cores with the 5xxx series
Z170 "Skylake" for 4 cores (at last in the short term), but new features like PCI-E4.0

I don't think pcie 4.0 is out till 2017 so unfortunately is not on the skylake boards. pretty much down to clock vs cores though i hear the Haswell-E's clock quite well.

ZeroG · 18 Jul 2015 at 11:01

Caracus2k said:
Even if there is no drop in replacement for x99 to replace the 5xxx series it will still be the goto choice for some time for those looking for more cores than the mainstream range. Skylakes confirmed to be four core only and I would not put it past Intel to keep the core count at a maximum off four for the mainstream processors to at least cannolake and possibly beyond. Early leaks of skylake performance don't look particularly promising if your not concerned about igpu performance or a lower tdp... Looks like a repeat of haswell and Ivybridge with there somewhat lacklustre improvements over Sandybridge. Don't regret my 5820k at all has half as many cores as the best mainstream chip and clocks pretty well with it. The next -e platform won't likely be out now till 2017 in any event

I've been waiting until Skylake comes out before upgrading the rest of my system. Currently still on an i5 2500k. So would it be better to upgrade now anyway if Skylake isn't going to bring much to the party or just upgrade to a Skylake system anyway?

Caracus2k · 18 Jul 2015 at 11:41

ZeroG said:
I've been waiting until Skylake comes out before upgrading the rest of my system. Currently still on an i5 2500k. So would it be better to upgrade now anyway if Skylake isn't going to bring much to the party or just upgrade to a Skylake system anyway?

Wait and see what Skylake brings when we get full retail reviews. The main advantage from going from a 2500K would be the newer motherboard features on the Z170 boards. If you're looking for a massive improvement in CPU power alone you may be a little disappointed... (especially of you 2500k is a good clocker)

Combat Fighter · 18 Jul 2015 at 20:36

Any chance Skylake-E could come out on 2011-3?

Orangey · 18 Jul 2015 at 21:06

They will probably put out a token refresh for X99 then go to a new socket for Skylake-E late next year.

Quixote · 19 Jul 2015 at 22:29

Anyone reckon an X99 refresh might include a mid-price 8-core ?
Like the 3930k was 6 cores like the extreme chip but the 5930k just had extra pci-e lanes.
Think it might happen ?

Sylver123 · 19 Jul 2015 at 23:20

Quixote said:
Anyone reckon an X99 refresh might include a mid-price 8-core ?
Like the 3930k was 6 cores like the extreme chip but the 5930k just had extra pci-e lanes.
Think it might happen ?

Not going to happen. They will do the same as what they did with Haswell-E.

They would release two 6 core models and an 8 core model being the most top chip.

bigmunkey3741 · 20 Jul 2015 at 08:43

well, if they dont do a refresh, that would be a huge ballache..
I went X99 as it was supposed to last a while and have an upgrade path. :'(
looks like i may have to hang onto it for a long while and just my 5820k lasts lol.

tipes · 20 Jul 2015 at 14:04

bigmunkey3741 said:
well, if they dont do a refresh, that would be a huge ballache..
I went X99 as it was supposed to last a while and have an upgrade path. :'(
looks like i may have to hang onto it for a long while and just my 5820k lasts lol.

That is Intel for you - milk it for all it is worth, no change there then, but to be fair it is a stonking platform.

Caracus2k · 21 Jul 2015 at 22:23

bigmunkey3741 said:
well, if they dont do a refresh, that would be a huge ballache..
I went X99 as it was supposed to last a while and have an upgrade path. :'(
looks like i may have to hang onto it for a long while and just my 5820k lasts lol.

There is a high probability now that we wont get a refresh for X99 given Broadwell's pretty much a no show with Intel moving quickly onto Skylake starting with the consumer line up.

On the plus side I doubt the consumer Skylake chips are going to give that much extra to over clockers over the last three processor lines:-
Improved IGP, slightly improved IPC, little or no improvement in base/ turbo speed especially when overclocked, more cooling problems for overclocked chips due to poor quality TIM under the heat spreader and higher heat density in the chip itself.

And the cherry on top for us X99 owners - no six core plus consumer CPU in sight

Still very confident that those of us who invested in X99 will reap the rewards of a platform with more longevity ala X58/ X79 even without a CPU refesh.

Having said that have fingers crossed for Broadwell-E of X99 compatible Skylake-E!

tipes · 21 Jul 2015 at 22:30

Caracus2k said:
There is a high probability now that we wont get a refresh for X99 given Broadwell's pretty much a no show with Intel moving quickly onto Skylake starting with the consumer line up.

On the plus side I doubt the consumer Skylake chips are going to give that much extra to over clockers over the last three processor lines:-
Improved IGP, slightly improved IPC, little or no improvement in base/ turbo speed especially when overclocked, more cooling problems for overclocked chips due to poor quality TIM under the heat spreader and higher heat density in the chip itself.

And the cherry on top for us X99 owners - no six core plus consumer CPU in sight

Still very confident that those of us who invested in X99 will reap the rewards of a platform with more longevity ala X58/ X79 even without a CPU refesh.

Having said that have fingers crossed for Broadwell-E of X99 compatible Skylake-E!

+1. I hope for either broadwell E or not likely compatible Skylake E. Heres hoping.

TrojanWhore · 22 Jul 2015 at 13:43

Sylver123 said:
Not going to happen. They will do the same as what they did with Haswell-E.

They would release two 6 core models and an 8 core model being the most top chip.

I'm not convinced - while I agree that there's not really any pressure on them from a mainstream (read 'gaming') requirements pov, if the current pre-order xeon offerings are anything to go by, they already seem confident in their ability to offer 14c/28t offerings soon on 2011-3, which would indicate that they could get an 8 core out well below the current 5960X price.

as per:
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-552-IN&groupid=701&catid=6&subcat=1823

personally my next upgrade will be 6-8 core + DDR4, I'm just waiting for the right combo of PCI-e lanes and price.....or a payrise and a 5960X

Silent_Scone · 22 Jul 2015 at 14:53

Jokester said:
It seems likely that Broadwell-E is going to get ditched, given Broadwell is pretty much canned as well. It'll largely depend on whether Skylake-E is on schedule. No doubt Skylake-E will be a new socket as well.

It will have to be, Skylake has ditched the integrated voltage regulator

TrojanWhore · 22 Jul 2015 at 16:36

Silent_Scone said:
It will have to be, Skylake has ditched the integrated voltage regulator

was not aware of that (not that I pay much attention these days)

my first thought is that could massively boost the motherboard market (and top tier OC potential), if board vendors are able to boast higher power delivery potential than competitors.....thinking about it, isn't that already the case? (VRMs being on the mobo I mean!)

Jokester · 22 Jul 2015 at 17:29

Silent_Scone said:
It will have to be, Skylake has ditched the integrated voltage regulator

Skylake-E could be completely different.