New 7800GTX build

Booner! · 6 Mar 2006 at 19:03

Hey, posted the other day about specing me a build, i have got the following parts already:
BFG 7800GTX pci-e
Aerocool aero engine 2 case
Koolance exos 2 water cooling kit
2 sata hard drives

I need the rest decided upon.... and have £925
preferably AMD X2 build

thanks again guys

quadboi · 6 Mar 2006 at 19:04

Erm, Operton 170? Acer 19" widescreen

helpimcrap · 6 Mar 2006 at 19:04

do you plan to overclock or not?
do you play games?
what resolution do you play at?
do you have £925 left for the rest of the bits?

Booner! · 6 Mar 2006 at 19:13

i have a 19inch dvi veiwsonic 3ms and all the other gear like mouse and 5.1 sound gear,

just need the guts... like RAM, CPU, MOBO, SOUND CARD

im a big gamer, play at 1280 X 1024

small overclock, dont have the money to waste if it goes wrong with a nice CPU, i would prefer an X2 and small overclock ( i already had my fun overclocking my 3.2ghz p4 (478) to 4.14ghz)

helpimcrap · 6 Mar 2006 at 19:22

righto here goes then....

small overclocking machine using bits you specced....

REFERENCE DESCRIPTION QUANTITY PRICE COST REMOVE
CP-127-AM AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 4400+ (Socket 939) - Retail (ADA4400CDBOX) (CP-127-AM)
£284.95 £284.95
MY-007-GS G.Skill 2GB DDR ZX PC3200 (2x1GB) CAS2 Dual Channel Kit (F1-3200PHU2-2GBZX) (MY-007-GS)
£129.95 £129.95
MB-013-DF DFI LanParty UT NF4 SLI-D (Socket 939) PCI-Express Motherboard (MB-013-DF)
£94.95 £94.95
CA-024-EN Enermax Liberty 620W ELT620AWT ATX2.2 Modular SLI Compliant PSU (CA-024-EN)
£89.95 £89.95
CD-038-PO Pioneer DVR-111DBK 16 x 16 DVD±RW Dual Layer ReWriter - (Black) OEM (CD-038-PO)
£24.95 £49.90
SC-034-CL Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Music - Retail (SC-034-CL)
£69.95 £69.95
Subtotal £719.65
VAT £125.94
Total £845.59

£75 under budget... no point getting better RAM or CPU really. lot more money for little extra.

PSU would handle SLI as well and you should be good for putting some money towards SLI or your next graphics card.

Booner! · 6 Mar 2006 at 19:26

that sound good, might go for a tagan power , but otherwise that looks like a nice build

helpimcrap · 6 Mar 2006 at 19:28

if you were a serious OCer i'd plump for a 146 opteron and clock the hell out of it and get another GTX.

Booner! · 6 Mar 2006 at 19:52

i am stumped to wether its worth the extra £90ish to just get a L2 cache of 1024... is it really worth it? will i notice a difference gaming if i spent the extra? if my build has 2gb geil value and 1 7800GTX would the 4400+ make things a lot better or just marginly?

4200+
Price: £219.95 (£258.44 Including VAT at 17.5%)

4400+
Price: £284.95 (£334.82 Including VAT at 17.5%)

thanks, its always good to ask you experts

helpimcrap · 6 Mar 2006 at 21:20

apparently the extra cache is worth roughly 100mhz. ie the 4200 would need to run 100mhz quicker to be on a par with the 4400. for how much the geil is cheaper i'd still go for the Gskill as its low latency.

ACESHIGH · 7 Mar 2006 at 00:51

More like 200MHz Hence the naming 4200+ & 4400+.

But the extra cahce helps more if you are multitasking & using 3D programs.

Personally i would go for the 4400+, as i use my pc for more than just games.

Booner! · 7 Mar 2006 at 01:06

okay so i am looking at this at the moment: please advise as i have changed CPU due to price and thought for gaming purposes its better than an X2 4400+

AMD Athlon 64 4000+ San Diego 90nm £201.95

DFI LanParty UT NF4 Ultra-D (Socket 939) £79.95

Hiper HPU-4B580 Type R 580W Modular ATX2.2 PSU - Blue £52.95

OCZ 2GB (2 x 1GB)PC3200 DualChannelGold GX-XTCSeries EL-DDR CAS2 £159.95

Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 4 7.1 EAX Sound Card - OEM £29.95

Plextor PX-130A DVD-ROM (Black) - OEM £18.95

Subtotal £543.70
VAT £95.15
Total £638.85

+ seagate 80gb sata for raid setup £40
+ 7800GTX off my cousin for £200
=
£878.85

Explicit · 7 Mar 2006 at 01:08

For the cost of that 4000+, you can have the dual core 3800+ which is better in the long run. Mobo comes with a 7.1 sound card too.

kbc · 7 Mar 2006 at 01:21

Check the advice of that CPU thread you made!

Get a dual core for the budget you're playing with. You can clock the 4400+ beyond 2.2GHz, 2 seems better than one at the time of this purchase.

Booner! · 7 Mar 2006 at 01:28

im stuck for choice with MAX £330 on cpu ...choice is

AMD Opteron UP 170 Dual Core San Diego 2.0GHz 2MB Cache Price: £317.19 with vat

AMD Athlon 64 4000+ San Diego 90nm Price: £237.29 with vat

AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 4400+ Price: £334.82 with vat

maaan this is so tough , with no previous experience of AMD too lol, help!!

Explicit · 7 Mar 2006 at 01:29

With that Ultra-D mobo, there can only be one choice: Opty 170 + Overclock!

Booner! · 7 Mar 2006 at 01:32

hehe you like that chip

well looks like its swaying opty, unless someone else can prove different?

one last thing, if the opteron is soo good, where is it located on here

http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/11/21/the_mother_of_all_cpu_charts_2005/page29.html

please tell me that its better than the san diego 4000+ cause thats all the way at the top and cheaper..

kbc · 7 Mar 2006 at 01:32

Explicit said:
With that Ultra-D mobo, there can only be one choice: Opty 170 + Overclock!

Yes, get that Opteron. Stable and I'm sure you won't need too much experience with AMD to overclock this.

............... Yes... but the for your budget, you're more likely to be happy with an Opteron 170 than a single core San Diego 4000+. Believe me on this one. You'll be able to exceed the clock speeds of that chip with this server chip.

Booner! · 7 Mar 2006 at 01:37

so i get the drift that its a server chipset of the san diego 4000+ just lower clock speed ( which i will overclock higher) and just twice the cores (2X cache too)

looks like im sold

new build coming soon

kbc · 7 Mar 2006 at 02:24

Booner! said:
so i get the drift that its a server chipset of the san diego 4000+ just lower clock speed ( which i will overclock higher) and just twice the cores (2X cache too)

looks like im sold new build coming soon

To clear your post up, the Opteron's are server chips with 1MB cache.

BigDom · 7 Mar 2006 at 10:00

Also looking at that benchmark is not a good way of judging the capability or speed of a CPU. That's a game which clearly doesn't utilise dual core CPU's - if it did the SD 4000 would come lower in the list. To Clarify essenitally a dual core Opty is a handpicked X2 4400+ (which is a pair of Sad Diego cores in a single CPU ).