New AMD ITX Build

StumpyJake · 5 May 2022 at 15:32

I haven't built a PC for quite a while. My old Gen5 Intel system stopped working but I now quite fancy building a new ITX build, using AMD AM4. I know AM5 is around the corner but I don't want the hassle of a new platform and probably the extra cost associated with the new components and DDR5. I don't overclock so was thinking about the new 5800X3D CPU with a Radeon RX6800XT GPU, that should keep me going for a long time. Only use really is playing games. I'm mainly building it for MSFS2020 and I think this should give me good performance in game. Anyway the question is about Motherboards. I've never built a AMD system so was wondering peoples opinion on what board to pair the 5800X3D with. I know I'm limited with the availability of ITX boards but this is more about if I go with X570 or B550 chipsets. Is the CPU more suited to one or the other?
Thank you

mickyflinn · 5 May 2022 at 21:33

X570 is usually has more ports etc over B550 but should perform simmlar to each other . So really it's a case of looking which each offers ,your needs and checking for what power phases they have .

rare · 5 May 2022 at 21:36

Only real difference is the additional pcie lanes with X570, which is meaningless on ITX.

StumpyJake · 6 May 2022 at 13:02

rare said:
Only real difference is the additional pcie lanes with X570, which is meaningless on ITX.

How so? Is this due to it only having one PCI-e slot?

mickyflinn said:
X570 is usually has more ports etc over B550 but should perform simmlar to each other . So really it's a case of looking which each offers ,your needs and checking for what power phases they have .

What's considered good power phase wise. I've seen a Asus ROG Strix board that has a 8+2 power phase

rare · 6 May 2022 at 14:10

The chipset itself provides additional pcie lanes, which on an ITX board is largely irrelevant as you don’t have the physical size to make the most of it.

mickyflinn · 6 May 2022 at 15:49

StumpyJake said:
How so? Is this due to it only having one PCI-e slot?

What's considered good power phase wise. I've seen a Asus ROG Strix board that has a 8+2 power phase

Usually the more the better (smoother power delivery) just Compare them between models, strix are good motherboards.

JollyJamma · 8 May 2022 at 12:33

I know I'm limited with the availability of ITX boards but this is more about if I go with X570 or B550 chipsets. Is the CPU more suited to one or the other?

You dont need X570. B550 is fine, especially for ITX.

My basket at OcUK:

1 x Ssupd Meshlicious Mini ITX Case - Full Mesh - Black - PCIE 3.0 (SKU: CA-003-SU) = £99.95
1 x Asus ROG Strix B550-I Gaming (AMD AM4) B550 Mini-ITX Motherboard (SKU: MB-6FA-AS) = £194.99
1 x Asus & Gamesplanet - Game Promo (SKU: XX-03R-AS) = £0.00
1 x Patriot Viper Steel 64GB (2x32GB) DDR4 PC4-28800C18 3600MHz Dual Channel Kit (PVS464G360C8K) (SKU: MY-109-PA) = £229.99
1 x Corsair SF Series 750W 80 Plus Platinum Modular SFX Power Supply (CP-9020186-UK) (SKU: CA-24J-CS) = £159.95
1 x AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 3D Cache Eight Core 4.5GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-3D0-AM) = £409.99
1 x Samsung 970 EVO Plus 1TB M.2 2280 PCI-e 3.0 x4 NVMe Solid State Drive (SKU: HD-23Y-SA) = £119.99
1 x Sapphire Radeon RX 6800 XT Pulse 16GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GX-39C-SP) = £818.98
1 x AMD Xbox Game Pass - Equipped for Battle Game Bundle (SKU: XX-035-AM) = £0.00

Total: £2,046.14 (includes delivery: £12.30)

StumpyJake · 8 May 2022 at 21:43

JollyJamma said:
You dont need X570. B550 is fine, especially for ITX.

My basket at OcUK:

1 x Ssupd Meshlicious Mini ITX Case - Full Mesh - Black - PCIE 3.0 (SKU: CA-003-SU) = £99.95

1 x Asus ROG Strix B550-I Gaming (AMD AM4) B550 Mini-ITX Motherboard (SKU: MB-6FA-AS) = £194.99

1 x Asus & Gamesplanet - Game Promo (SKU: XX-03R-AS) = £0.00

1 x Patriot Viper Steel 64GB (2x32GB) DDR4 PC4-28800C18 3600MHz Dual Channel Kit (PVS464G360C8K) (SKU: MY-109-PA) = £229.99

1 x Corsair SF Series 750W 80 Plus Platinum Modular SFX Power Supply (CP-9020186-UK) (SKU: CA-24J-CS) = £159.95

1 x AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 3D Cache Eight Core 4.5GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-3D0-AM) = £409.99

1 x Samsung 970 EVO Plus 1TB M.2 2280 PCI-e 3.0 x4 NVMe Solid State Drive (SKU: HD-23Y-SA) = £119.99

1 x Sapphire Radeon RX 6800 XT Pulse 16GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GX-39C-SP) = £818.98

1 x AMD Xbox Game Pass - Equipped for Battle Game Bundle (SKU: XX-035-AM) = £0.00

Total: £2,046.14 (includes delivery: £12.30)

Thank you all for the info. This config is pretty much what i had in mind.

JollyJamma · 8 May 2022 at 21:50

StumpyJake said:
Thank you all for the info. This config is pretty much what i had in mind.

It’s what I would build for myself.

mickyflinn · 8 May 2022 at 21:59

StumpyJake said:
Thank you all for the info. This config is pretty much what i had in mind.

You will need a cooler for the cpu, that case a 280mm radiator can be mounted on the front or a 73mm CPU cooler can be fitted to the CPU by moving the motherboard tray, versus a maximum of a 53mm CPU cooler with a vertically mounted GPU.

StumpyJake · 9 May 2022 at 13:00

So made a few amendments. Wasn't sure is the extra £100 was worth for CL16 ram instead of CL18 so stuck with CL18. Videos I've seen for MSFS2020 say the faster ram the better but don't know if I would see any improvement. Also went for the PCIe 4.0 case and a Gen4 M.2 drive.

1	CA-004-SU	Ssupd Meshlicious Mini ITX Case - Full Mesh - Black - PCIE 4.0	£137.99	£137.99
1	MB-6FA-AS	Asus ROG Strix B550-I Gaming (AMD AM4) B550 Mini-ITX Motherboard	£194.99	£194.99
1	CA-24J-CS	Corsair SF Series 750W 80 Plus Platinum Modular SFX Power Supply (CP-9020186-UK)	£159.94	£159.94
1	CP-3D0-AM	AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 3D Cache Eight Core 4.5GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail	£410.00	£410.00
1	GX-39C-SP	Sapphire Radeon RX 6800 XT Pulse 16GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card	£818.98	£818.98
1	HS-07B-AR	Arctic Liquid Freezer II High Performance CPU Water Cooler - 240mm	£69.95	£69.95
1	MY-109-PA	Patriot Viper Steel 64GB (2x32GB) DDR4 PC4-28800C18 3600MHz Dual Channel Kit (PVS464G360C8K)	£229.99	£229.99
1	XX-03R-AS	Asus & Gamesplanet - Game Promo	£0.00	£0.00
1	XX-035-AM	AMD Xbox Game Pass - Equipped for Battle Game Bundle	£0.00	£0.00
1	HD-007-TG	TeamGroup T-Force Cardea Zero Z440 1TB NVMe PCIe Gen4 M.2 Solid State Drive	£119.99	£119.99
				£2,141.84

JollyJamma · 9 May 2022 at 13:13

I ordered a B550i Strix myself and it arrived today.