New AMD Ryzen 2 Build

Kavalier

Kavalier

Kavalier

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Hello everyone,

Sadly my current system went into limp mode, and am in need of a new system.

As I did before, I would like to ask for some suggestions regarding my hardware picks :)
The main purpose of this computer system is that of gaming.

The following is the hardware that I chose.

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,090.69 (includes shipping: £44.51)​
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From other sites I added the following:
  • 850W Corsair RM850X Fully Modular 80 PLUS Gold ATX Power Supply @€147.00
  • 11GB EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX2080Ti XC Ultra Gaming GDDR6 PCIe3.0 VR Ready Video Card @€1399.00
Regarding the case, I will use my current one.

I would like to keep the budget for this build at around 2700 Euros.

Can you please assist me :)

Thanks in advance for your time,
Kavalier
 
Hi,

Well, looks interesting but the memory better be this:

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £158.69 (includes shipping: £8.70)​
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or:

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £178.69 (includes shipping: £8.70)​
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The second kit comes with lower latency and higher frequency, but there is no RGB.
 
That's a great combo- it's what I've got!
Go for the 8Pack RAM, it runs great at 3200 with no issues. (Update the BIOS asap though, there's been several new versions since launch). It's worth the extra 20 quid (imho) for the C14 Samsung chips. Ryzen loves 'em.
 
Kavalier said:
Really thinking of choosing My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £115.49 (includes shipping: £10.50)
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instead of
My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £258.65 (includes shipping: £8.70)
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After checking a bit more seems that there are some software issues related to Ryujin.
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Except the cooler is for another socket and you cannot use it.

Return the 2080 Ti because it is not worth it and take this:

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,756.00 (includes shipping: £11.10)​
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That's good motherboard with strong modern design VRM and good platform for upgrades in future.


There are very little real world differences between NVMe and SATA signaled SSDs in actual performance:
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Crucial/MX500_M.2_1_TB/13.html
Those high synthetic benchmarketing numbers would really show only if copying files back and forth plays big part in your gaming.
You could get literally twice the capacity for fitting more games for same price level:
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/wd-b...-solid-state-drive-wds100t2b0a-hd-54j-wd.html
Having more games actually installed because of not running out of space would improve game loading speeds most. ;)


In PSUs Corsair is charging £20 brand extra or you could move efficiency notch up:
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/seas...plus-gold-modular-power-supply-ca-05s-ss.html
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/seas...-platinum-modular-power-supply-ca-05w-ss.html
Current GloFo made Ryzens don't really overclock in any usefull way at all and if you're neither intending to overclock very heavily in future could drop 100W for £20 less
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/seas...plus-gold-modular-power-supply-ca-05r-ss.html
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/seas...-platinum-modular-power-supply-ca-05v-ss.html


Kavalier said:
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Fashionable AIOs with slim radiators don't really have much more cooling power, unlike custom loops of decade ago with usually something like 5cm thick radiators.
Unlike what legalized lying machine hypes water pipes in place of heatpipes simply doesn't make heat disappear magically.
While pump is extra noise source, along with multiple fans adding noise per rpm.
https://www.kitguru.net/components/...ujin-360-review-an-aio-with-an-oled-screen/5/

And while heatpipe coolers are basically failure proof with no wearing parts, except fan, water pipe coolers have many more things which degrade/wear.
So certainly wouldn't pay luxury price (with no real performance increase) for cooler whose manufacturer doesn't even trust it to last more than three years!
Arm and leg price should come with approriate warranty.

BeQuiet Dark Rock Pro4 or Noctua NH-D15 would match most of them in cooling per noise.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/be-quiet-dark-rock-pro-4-cpu-cooler-hs-01c-bq.html
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/noctua-nh-d15-se-am4-cpu-cooler-hs-039-nc.html
And for current Ryzens even cheaper would do perfectly well.
While AMD demoing eight core Zen2 engineering sample matching 9900K at lot lower power consumption means neither are Ryzen 3000 models going to be power hogs.


Instead of spending extravagantly on things with little or no real benefit for the price luxury you should pay attention to that other side of gaming immersion: Sound.
Unless you already have there some proper surround sound home theater...
And if your room can't fit proper speakers/you have to avoid noise because of neighbours, good headphones and sound card for binaural sound simulation cost very little.
At least compared to arm, both legs and half the internal organs priced GPUs.
Which still won't hold their value for that many years, except if lack of competition continues.
 
4K8KW10 said:
Except the cooler is for another socket and you cannot use it.

Return the 2080 Ti because it is not worth it and take this:

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,756.00 (includes shipping: £11.10)
​
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He wants an RTX 2080 ti not an inferior Vega VII.
 
Kavalier said:
Hello everyone,

Sadly my current system went into limp mode, and am in need of a new system.

As I did before, I would like to ask for some suggestions regarding my hardware picks :)
The main purpose of this computer system is that of gaming.

The following is the hardware that I chose.

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,090.69 (includes shipping: £44.51)
​

From other sites I added the following:
  • 850W Corsair RM850X Fully Modular 80 PLUS Gold ATX Power Supply @€147.00
  • 11GB EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX2080Ti XC Ultra Gaming GDDR6 PCIe3.0 VR Ready Video Card @€1399.00
Regarding the case, I will use my current one.

I would like to keep the budget for this build at around 2700 Euros.

Can you please assist me :)

Thanks in advance for your time,
Kavalier
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Hi

What case do you have ?

What monitor are you going to be gaming on ?
 
Hello again everyone,

Once again thank you for your input.

Regarding Case I got the following:
My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £135.49 (includes shipping: £10.50)​
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Monitor:
31.5" Asus ROG Strix XG32VQ 144HZ WQHD 2560x1440 LED FreeSync Curved Gaming Monitor

So after your suggestions, the basket was updated:
My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,536.05 (includes shipping: £11.10)​
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However, now I do not know which cooler to go for since @EsaT was not convinced with build quality.
 
I would avoid the Vega VII unless you want a hairdryer in your pc. It runs hot and loud under stock settings. The 2080 ti is a much more powerful card.

The only slight issue might be that adaptive sync might not work with an Nvidia gpu on that Freesync monitor, as it isn't on the initial Nvidia compatible list that they released. So you could run into issues such as a flickering screen etc with an Nvidia gpu. A Gigabyte Vega 64 would be a cheaper short term option if you wanted freesync compatibility, and then look to upgrade to a Navi gpu later down the line. Or you could stick with the 2080 ti and see if it plays nice with adaptive sync.


You could go with something like this for the cooler. It won't block any ram slots so the tall RGB ram will be still on view.


My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £62.69 (includes shipping: £8.70)​
​
 
I appreciate your feedback :)

Regarding the RAM, I would like that the RAM sticks have some RGB flavour (Unless the 8PACK version gives a huge performance leap)
Cooler wise are there any other options that you would recommend?
Regarding the graphics card, I do not plan to OC it for the time being, therefore, it should stay cool temp wise.

I forgot to mention that I will use my 2 1TB HDD from my previous build that is why I chose that NVM 500 GB SSD.

Once again thanks for your input.
 
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It's not a case of a huge performance leap with regard to the RAM, it's a case of actually working at it's rated speed without crashing. I, and many others had a lot of trouble with c16 RAM, and a 3200MHz c16 was often only stable at 2400MHz with Ryzen.
I have 16GB, £150 worth of it sat on a shelf because my system wouldn't run it, and I have the same chip and mobo.
Maybe BIOS and Agesa updates have done something since then, but a lot of people had a lot of problems.
The c14 just works, I know because I use it.
 
Kavalier said:
I appreciate your feedback :)

Regarding the RAM, I would like that the RAM sticks have some RGB flavour (Unless the 8PACK version gives a huge performance leap)
Cooler wise are there any other options that you would recommend?
Regarding the graphics card, I do not plan to OC it for the time being, therefore, it should stay cool temp wise.

I forgot to mention that I will use my 2 1TB HDD from my previous build that is why I chose that NVM 500 GB SSD.

Once again thanks for your input.
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If you want to keep RGB ram then you want an air cooler that is offset so that it clears the ram slots. You have the Cryorig H7, H5 Universal and R1 Universal. There is also the Arctic Cooler Esports and Noctua D15S. There are others but those ones spring to mind.


The Vega VII runs hot/loud even when not overclocked. You should look at some reviews for it first as it gets a lot of bad ones (Gamers Nexus review is one).
 
DoneADougalOnSofa said:
It's not a case of a huge performance leap with regard to the RAM, it's a case of actually working at it's rated speed without crashing. I, and many others had a lot of trouble with c16 RAM, and a 3200MHz c16 was often only stable at 2400MHz with Ryzen.
I have 16GB, £150 worth of it sat on a shelf because my system wouldn't run it, and I have the same chip and mobo.
Maybe BIOS and Agesa updates have done something since then, but a lot of people had a lot of problems.
The c14 just works, I know because I use it.
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Than I will go for the 8Pack Version.

lee32uk said:
If you want to keep RGB ram then you want an air cooler that is offset so that it clears the ram slots. You have the Cryorig H7, H5 Universal and R1 Universal. There is also the Arctic Cooler Esports and Noctua D15S. There are others but those ones spring to mind.


The Vega VII runs hot/loud even when not overclocked. You should look at some reviews for it first as it gets a lot of bad ones (Gamers Nexus review is one).
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I saw reviews, and they were mixed. What I found out is that AMD is working on a fix regarding the temperature and fan issues.

So since I will choose the 8PACK RAM, what do you recommend guys as a CPU Heathsink?

Will the AMD version work? Else shall I go for an Air Cooled heathsink or watercooled like lets say Corsair H100i?
 
I recently upgraded my boot drive to a 970 EVO Plus, the newer model of the EVO. OCUK don't seem to stock it, but it's a substantial performance boost over the EVO as far as I can tell.

Additioanlly, if you can stretch to a 1TB model, you'll get typically get higher performance over a 256/512GB model, again, as far as I understand the numbers.
 
Kavalier said:
I saw reviews, and they were mixed. What I found out is that AMD is working on a fix regarding the temperature and fan issues.

So since I will choose the 8PACK RAM, what do you recommend guys as a CPU Heathsink?

Will the AMD version work? Else shall I go for an Air Cooled heathsink or watercooled like lets say Corsair H100i?
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If you want one of the best air coolers then the BeQuiet Dark Rock Pro 4 would be my suggestion. The 8Pack Ram is pretty tall so you might have to move the fan up a few mm. Other option is to remove the heat spreader from the ram which reduces the height. Doesn't affect performance.

For a liquid cooler then yeah any of the Corsair 240mm/280mm/360mm etc will do fine. Just check they come with an AM4 bracket if they are older versions.
 
DrillSgt said:
I recently upgraded my boot drive to a 970 EVO Plus, the newer model of the EVO. OCUK don't seem to stock it, but it's a substantial performance boost over the EVO as far as I can tell.

Additioanlly, if you can stretch to a 1TB model, you'll get typically get higher performance over a 256/512GB model, again, as far as I understand the numbers.
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I checked the numbers and they seem to be the same in terms of read/write speeds.

lee32uk said:
If you want one of the best air coolers then the BeQuiet Dark Rock Pro 4 would be my suggestion. The 8Pack Ram is pretty tall so you might have to move the fan up a few mm. Other option is to remove the heat spreader from the ram which reduces the height. Doesn't affect performance.

For a liquid cooler then yeah any of the Corsair 240mm/280mm/360mm etc will do fine. Just check they come with an AM4 bracket if they are older versions.
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I think I will start with the Ryzen 2 cooler and move from there.

With your helpful feedback I know exactly what I want know! So once again thanks for your feedback!

Once I receive the parts, will post some pictures of the build
 
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