New build advice please

[Leech0r]

Hi all

My last two PCs (purchases 2010 & 2016) have come from Overclockers and I've always been very pleased. I'm keen to buy a new prebuilt PC, with the primary use being high end gaming and streaming while I play. My budget is £2,500 and needs to cover:
- New prebuilt PC
- New second monitor that will work alongside my existing monitor (AOC G2460PG 24") and new PC
- New gaming mouse (I prefer simpler design like intellimouse but I want something with excellent response time)

I have a slight preference for Intel, Nvidia and Corsair from historic use of products but very happy to be persuaded otherwise.

My last PC was the first time I'd experienced having an SSD, on which load times absolutely blew me away, but it's 250gb and isn't anywhere near enough to store the ~1.2TB of games I have. It leaves me to think I need to have a big SSD but that doesn't seem to come standard in the prebuilt so curious what advice/info i might be able to glean from this forum as to optimal storage. Total storage needs right now are ~3TB of which I satisfy 2TB of this on external USB harddrives at the moment. I've no idea what storage needs might look like over the next 5 years?

Also happy to take advice over alternative options for monitor usage, I previously had a second old 19" LCD connected but it's finally died.

Really appreciate any thoughts or comments.

 

[Turn]

Intel 12600K/12700K
RTX3070/RTX3070Ti/RTX3080 (depends heavily on pricing here)
Corsair 4000D Airflow Case
1TB NVMe + 2TB NVMe - Use the 1TB for your windows + any other applications, and the other NVMe to store all your games on. (Would opt for a Samsung 980 as the default unless there's something a fair bit cheaper)

Logitech G PRO X SUPERLIGHT Mouse
Asus TUF VG27AQ Monitor (27" 1440p 155Hz). - saw it for £299.99 2 weeks ago

Hopefully that's put you in the right sort of direction
I haven't added up each part per say, but just roughly estimated what each thing costs to try and get around the budget you mentioned.

 

[Haz123]

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ocuk...th-gen-i5-rtx-3070ti-gaming-pc-fs-1fa-og.html

The Sabre is the most sensible choice. Configure the storage how you want and keep the 3070ti so you keep it in budget. Pick the case you like , Lancool II Mesh would be my choice. I personally would ring them up and get them to change the Kolink PSU for an 80+ Gold unit from a more highly regarded brand.

You should have enough left over for a new monitor and mouse.

 

[Leech0r]

Thanks for the advice both. Sabre looks like a solid choice as does the monitor recommended. I think you're right on the power supply, and it definitely doesn't seem enough if I were to upgrade the graphics card to RTX3080.

I'm not a fan of wireless mouse generally due to problems on the sensor with ones I've had historically, slower response times, and recharging requirements. Any other recommendations?

 

[Haz123]

The mouse you use is a very personal choice. I have been using a wired Logitech G502 Hero for almost a year now and I very happy with it.

Monitor is again very changeable with a persons requirements. I use a 34" 3440x1440 monitor that I really like due to the aspect ratio, it is only 60hz so would not be good for everyones use case. High refresh rate monitors are improving every year and some good choices coming out so I would say dont rush this purchase and do some research and check out hwunboxed on youtube, they do some very good reviews and comparisons.

 

[Turn]

I'm not a fan of wireless mouse generally due to problems on the sensor with ones I've had historically, slower response times, and recharging requirements. Any other recommendations?

It's an amazing mouse, I charge it every 1-2 weeks & I'm a pretty heavy user spending most of my day at the desk. Usually just leave it overnight, but on the off chance I forget it usually charges up pretty quick anyway.
You're not going to notice any input lag really - since it's a gaming mouse it's one of the key points, most of the 'pro players/gamers' tend to use this mouse aswell & it's super lightweight so feels nice in the hand

I would definitely reconsider, I definitely couldn't go back to a mouse that has a cable dragging along everywhere.

 

[Tetras]

My last PC was the first time I'd experienced having an SSD, on which load times absolutely blew me away, but it's 250gb and isn't anywhere near enough to store the ~1.2TB of games I have. It leaves me to think I need to have a big SSD but that doesn't seem to come standard in the prebuilt so curious what advice/info i might be able to glean from this forum as to optimal storage. Total storage needs right now are ~3TB of which I satisfy 2TB of this on external USB harddrives at the moment. I've no idea what storage needs might look like over the next 5 years?.

250GB is fine for an OS drive, but the price difference between 250gb and 500gb is usually very small, so they're rarely worth buying unless it is a special offer.

In reference to the next 5 years, the only issue on the horizon right now is that DirectStorage requires a PCI-Express SSD and since the new consoles are built around streaming from the SSD, SATA drives could end up obsolete if developers decide to build their games around this concept (at least, with no fallback options).

For this reason, I'd avoid buying small drives to place in M.2 slots, because most boards only have two (if they're M-ATX sometimes only one, or only one is 'usable'), so it could end up annoyingly small very quickly. There is the option of expansion cards, but I'm not a huge fan and they're not suitable for many boards (e.g. no slots available to use them, compatibility issues, or excessive bandwidth limitations).

For the OS drive, I would avoid drives that are: 1. QLC, or 2. have no DRAM and the worst option would be both. I tend to buy a small proven SATA drive like the MX500 or WD Blue 3D for this purpose.

If what you're storing is not accessed frequently and/or it works fine on a hard drive, then there's really no problem with using them in future, an SSD (especially an M.2 SSD) is probably a waste of a slot. On the other hand, I would not want to buy a drive for new games that is either: a hard disk, or a SATA drive. A new game SSD for the next 5 years must be an nvme, in my opinion. If a lot of those games are old games, then it doesn't matter, since you're not likely to notice much difference between a SATA SSD and a PCI-E SSD.