New Build Advice/Spec (Budget Inside!)

[9dal39]

Hi Guys, I've came here for to spec every build so may as well come back now right? wondering if somebody can spec me up a decent gaming system for partners brother here is what I've got to work with!..

- BUDGET - £600-700 just for the tower, this is a newbie to PC Gaming he'll be playing all your typical games these days.. (Fortnite, PUBG, Fallout, CS:GO, battlefield etc..)

- Preferably an SSD + HD Combination which is pretty much normal spec these days...

- No keyboard, No Mouse, No Monitors and No Operating System, or anything else needed, just a case and the parts, I'll build it myself for him.

- Also as a side note it may be an option that if you look in my siggy, I could give him my Motherboard + RAM + CPU and possibly my graphics card at a discounted price since hes family and just upgrade mine to the really high end ones so this could be another option please spec me some parts and also if you spec in using the parts I've already got in my build I may consider just selling them off cheap to him!

- I may look to overclock it further down the line if it ever starts to become slow although but I can say this is something I have never done and have never overclocked at all on my previous pc's so this isn't important to me unless you guys think its something i'm missing out on not doing for extra performance..

Thanks for your help guys look forward to reading the specs!

 

[9dal39]

£40 steam voucher with the board and 3 free games with the RX AMD card

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x AMD Bundle - AMD Ryzen 5 2600, Gigabyte X370-Gaming 3, Team Group RAM *FREE 240GB SSD* *ONLINE ONLY* = £349.97
  • Memory Capacity:Team Group Vulcan T-Force 8GB (2x4GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C16 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey (TLGD48G3000
• 1 x PowerColor Radeon RX 570 Red Devil 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card= £209.99
• 1 x Toshiba 1TB P300 7200RPM Performance Hard Drive (HDWD110UZSVA)= £37.99
• 1 x Bitfenix Formula Series 550W 80 Plus Gold Power Supply= £66.95
• 1 x Cougar MX330-G Midi-Tower Case - Black Tempered Glass= £39.95

Total: £717.45 (includes shipping: £12.60)
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Thanks Orb, thats great I imagine it'll run everything comfortably? normally im a sucker for using just Nvidia/Intel products the AMD and ryzens up too scratch these days?

 

[9dal39]

If your gaming at 1080p 60hz then should be just fine to be fair , also freesync screens are a lot cheaper !!!

hes only ever console game'd tbf so should do him I suppose

 

[9dal39]

tell him to check out freesync monitors at a later point, start around £170 for 144hz .

specially since Xbox One now has freesync etc

and next gen consoles will as well

Any recommendations Orb? I've got a LG OLED C7 65" myself which is brilliant for fifa and stuff, but wouldn't mind a smaller freesync screen for when playing more intenses games on the future on the console or is my OLED more than good enough?

 

[9dal39]

Slight change of budget guys! Hes now got his desk and everything else, I've got £1,250 for a tower and monitor can some of you guys hook me up with a higher budget build lads?

 

[9dal39]

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x Gigabyte B450M-DS3H AMD B450 (Socket AM4) DDR4 Micro-ATX Motherboard= £69.95
• 1 x Gigabyte UD Pro 512GB SSD 2.5" SATA 6Gbps Toshiba 3D NAND Solid State Drive= £79.99
• 1 x CoolerMaster MasterBox Q300L Micro-ATX Case - Black Window= £44.99
• 1 x Team Group Vulcan T-Force 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C16 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey (TLGD416G30= £119.99
• 1 x AOC Q3279VWFD8 32" 2560x1440 IPS 75Hz FREESYNC WideScreen LED Monitor= £199.99
• 1 x AMD Ryzen 5 Six Core 2600 3.90GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £149.99
• 1 x Gigabyte Radeon RX VEGA 64 WindForce OC 8GB HBM2 PCI-Express Graphics Card= £439.99
• 1 x Bitfenix Formula Series 750W 80 Plus Gold Power Supply= £82.99

Total: £1,201.98 (includes shipping: £14.10)


i think its still £30 steam voucher with board and 3 free games from AMD with VEGA GPU​

youd still go AMD CPU and GFX even at that budget rather than moving over to intel/nvidia? also screen maybe slightly too big any around the 24-27 sorta range?

 

[9dal39]

You'd need a bigger BUDGET for intel and Nvidia and then a £600 G-Sync screen

1440p 31.5" is perfect , text is nice and readable within games and no need for scaling
You can find £350 27" 1440p 144hz screen though !!!!! Have a look online , TN panel but will be fast and smooth gameplay
Or drop to Vega 56 and 1080p 144hz IPS to save a little cash too

G-Sync really necessary on this guys build hah?

I use to use an ultrasharp 1440p for mine never really noticed the different with the hz until I jumped to my now predator 165hz 1440p ips display hah, but this guys never PC game'd so isn't going to be massively aware of the different HZ but if your saying ryzens the best way to go then im inclined to believe you my friend!

 

[9dal39]

will his pc struggle with 144hz 1440p, would he be better off with 144hz 1080p? debating getting him an IPS over the TN as when I ordered mine I ordered both the TN and IPS version and for the ms response time different I noticed aboslutely no different but the IPS looked way better!

 

[9dal39]

I just went with VEGA and freesync as its in the budget, 1440p 75hz and freesync all for £1200... damn



depends on the games, Fornite then yes he'll still hit the high 90s+ i believe etc

also monitors last a LOT longer then the GPUS .

IPS will have the better colour, I prefer this over TN panels

went with that build but he ordered a TN 1080p 144hz screen, will he be able to run ARK and things like that

 

[9dal39]

I just went with VEGA and freesync as its in the budget, 1440p 75hz and freesync all for £1200... damn



depends on the games, Fornite then yes he'll still hit the high 90s+ i believe etc

also monitors last a LOT longer then the GPUS .

IPS will have the better colour, I prefer this over TN panels

Also Orb whats the difference between the SSD in the build and one of those NVME M2 970 Evo's? other than them being the same price for 250GB as the standard SSD is for 500GB they are way faster aren't they? or is it just not necessary for this guys budget?

 

[9dal39]

Would fly bud ! Turn everything on high to tax the GPU, if you find out it's under 90% load then upscale to 1440p



They are faster... On paper, if your pulling 2000x32mp pictures from storage to ram to CPU back to storage there is a Huge difference, companies can save a few days compiling work loads.. of gaming.. not much difference.

Unless nvme on good deal, always push bigger storage solution, specially when games now top 70GB !!!

cheers mate yeah I'll max asee how it goes

 

[9dal39]

Would fly bud ! Turn everything on high to tax the GPU, if you find out it's under 90% load then upscale to 1440p



They are faster... On paper, if your pulling 2000x32mp pictures from storage to ram to CPU back to storage there is a Huge difference, companies can save a few days compiling work loads.. of gaming.. not much difference.

Unless nvme on good deal, always push bigger storage solution, specially when games now top 70GB !!!

Orb little bit of a problem? his computer seems fine playing most games, but when hes trying to play ARK its overheating, shutting itself off while like the power light and everything stays on but the display just goes black? think its just the graphics card getting too hot, also noticed the case has an extractor fan on the back but no fans inside to pull air into the case, should I order some to sit in this spot to get some cold air into the case?

and is there a reason its overheating just on this game particular?

 

[9dal39]

vega chips do run hot , able to get him to run an overlay program to see GPU temps when gaming ?

handy guide here

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/t...king-undervolting-information-guide.18793012/

funn enough, undervolting vega chips gets the most of the chips, will allow it to run cooler and faster .

good airflow will always help , difference between fans and no fans can knock down component temps by 10c+ Front fan will supply GPU with fresh cool air as well as some positive pressure to stop dust build up inside the case

I've never tried to overclock so not sure what that link helps with haha, what overlay program would you recommend to check heat? I'll get him to run one tonight while gaming and see what ARK does before it overheats and hits him out, I'll also order some fans for the front of the case, as I imagine these will be needed regardless. I believe it can take 2 x 140mms on the front, and 2 x 120mms on the top, so shall I order 2 x 140mm for the front of the case to pull cold air in, then order 1 more 120mm for the back at the top of the case so the rear fan and back top are pulling air out?

the gfx card also has a slight amount of coil whine I assume this isn't a reason to send it back though?

 

[9dal39]

all cards will have coil whine , if someone states their card doesn;t then get them to load Unigine valley at 720p and card will sing, then scream when you exit as it drives 400 fps .
easily why to cut down coil whine is running above program for a long period. All vendors normally do this very quickly to check for faults not not long enough - if it doesn't help and coil whine is quite loud for your liking then you can open RMA and explain you have tried running in the card for a little while .

above link will get the card to run cooler via less volts, vega runs more then it should really

Think I should go with one of these...
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/phanteks-pwm-fan-hub-black-ca-009-pt.html#

due to the fact the mobo doesn't have many fan slots..
then stick 2 140mm fans on the front for pulling in air and 1 x 120mm top back to extract hot air with the one thats already attached to the case firstly before trying to mess around with voltage clocks of the graphics card?

any fans you would recommend or would just about any do the job?

hoping its just the GFX card thats getting too hot and not his CPU as its just using the standard ref cooler too so maybe just fresh air from 2 140s and 1 more helping extract may help this a lot?