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[CSB]

Any thoughts on thermal performance/problems using the following parts for my upcoming x570 build?

Gigabyte x570 Aorus Extreme.
Ryzen 3800x
2x Samsung 970 Pro NVME
Random SSD for storage.
RTX 2080Ti Founders Edition (already own)
NZXT Kracken x62
Fractal Design Meshify C.

I'm undecided on memory and PSU.

 

[ExRayTed]

How will anyone know until we see reviews?

 

[EsaT]

What are you going to do with it?
For gaming super expensive NVMes don't give anything.

 

[CSB]

What are you going to do with it?
For gaming super expensive NVMes don't give anything.

My new PC will be used for gaming and whatnot.

NVME drives are pretty cheap nowadays and do improve system performance. That said, cost is not an issue for this new build. I am mostly interested in noise and thermal performance.

 

[tamzzy]

do improve system performance

Debatable. Depends on what you do.
If you're going to hammer the storage subsystem ie same drive copies/video editing...then yes. If not then the real world difference is minimal when compared to a good sata3 ssd.
Tbh if, as you say, money is not an issue...then the better choice would be to get a 3900x instead.

 

[EsaT]

While NVMe protocol itself has advantages over SATA, highest snake oil synthetic benchmarketing numbers do as much good as lawnmover in moon ship.
In gaming there's very little difference from those drives to standard SATA signaled SSD:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=nvme+ssd+hdd
So paying doubled GB price is waste of money to something not doing any good.
Well, I guess smoking cancer rolls and drinking toxic solvent would be still worser use for that money.

Though there are plenty of more reasonably priced NVMe drives for getting advantage of protocol itself.
Don't know why OcUK doesn't have them, but only super expensive Samsungs.


Anyway especially if putting that much to parts with no real world value of any kind, then PSU choise should be Seasonic Prime Titanium.
Unless something happens to PSU standards, that will be still high end five years from now.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/seas...-titanium-modular-power-supply-ca-060-ss.html
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/seas...-titanium-modular-power-supply-ca-061-ss.html
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/seas...-titanium-modular-power-supply-ca-06l-ss.html

Also having proper sound setup gives actual value for gaming.
If not able to fit proper home theater speaker setup, then good sound card for binaural sound simulation and quality headphones from actual audio maker is way to go for gaming immersion.
Heck, for competitive gaming for picking up foot steps etc one of the absolute top headphones, AKG K702 costs only about £100.

 

[CSB]

Debatable. Depends on what you do.
If you're going to hammer the storage subsystem ie same drive copies/video editing...then yes. If not then the real world difference is minimal when compared to a good sata3 ssd.
Tbh if, as you say, money is not an issue...then the better choice would be to get a 3900x instead.

It's my understanding that the 8 core parts use a single CCX + IO. If the 12 core part uses 2x CCX, won't gamers see a latency/fps hit?

 

[Maverick Wolfe]

Any thoughts on thermal performance/problems using the following parts for my upcoming x570 build?

Gigabyte x570 Aorus Extreme.
Ryzen 3800x
2x Samsung 970 Pro NVME
Random SSD for storage.
RTX 2080Ti Founders Edition (already own)
NZXT Kracken x62
Fractal Design Meshify C.

I'm undecided on memory and PSU.

Ditch the GB and go with the MSI Ace, Don't use NVME, they're Overpriced and not worth it, better off with a raid 0. The NZXT Kraken is okay, however you'd be better off going with a custom solution. The Meshify C is too small to build in. Memory Should be G.Skill Performance per dollar is spot on and Is one of the best memory companies that work with AMD processors. Stay away from Klevv or PNY. Reccommend at least a 1kw Platinum PSU similar to the ANTEC HCP. It has 40a on each of 4 12v rails and delivers 160a total. Two 860evo 500gb's in Raid 0 for SSD and with a HD itself for actual storage Seagate Barracuda Pro or Ironwolf Pro these come with 2 years data protection in the price.

 

[CSB]

Ditch the GB and go with the MSI Ace, Don't use NVME, they're Overpriced and not worth it, better off with a raid 0. The NZXT Kraken is okay, however you'd be better off going with a custom solution. The Meshify C is too small to build in. Memory Should be G.Skill Performance per dollar is spot on and Is one of the best memory companies that work with AMD processors. Stay away from Klevv or PNY. Reccommend at least a 1kw Platinum PSU similar to the ANTEC HCP. It has 40a on each of 4 12v rails and delivers 160a total. Two 860evo 500gb's in Raid 0 for SSD and with a HD itself for actual storage Seagate Barracuda Pro or Ironwolf Pro these come with 2 years data protection in the price.

I see the MSI ACE uses a fan to cool the chipset. I chose the Extreme to eliminate that point of failure. It also might be the better choice for upgrading to a 16c when they are released, due to the overkill VRM.

 

[tamzzy]

It's my understanding that the 8 core parts use a single CCX + IO. If the 12 core part uses 2x CCX, won't gamers see a latency/fps hit?

correct. we don't quite know yet, what the effects of inter-die ccx latency will do to gaming loads.
speculating, i suspect that 0.1%/1% lows will be lower due to said latency on the 3900x when compared to the 3800x.
but we'll see in reviews...in due course...

 

[EsaT]

It's my understanding that the 8 core parts use a single CCX + IO. If the 12 core part uses 2x CCX, won't gamers see a latency/fps hit?

Size of CCX is still four cores, so 8 core is going to have two CCXes like in current Ryzens.
While 12 core is going to have more of them, it also has more L3 cache per enabled core and we don't yet know how doubled overall L3 size from another chiplet/computing die affects gaming.