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metalmackey

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Hi all
I am going to be building a new pc within the next month or so as its finally time to retire my old system.
I have chosen most parts already including ssds,gpu,etc but need some help deciding on cpu/mb.
The pc will mostly be used for gaming and some other stuff but nothing like video editing or other intensive things.
My current cpu and mb have lasted me 8 years so i would like any upgrade to be as future proof as possible.
Here is the list of cpus and mbs that i cannot choose between.

threadripper 3970x
rog strix trx40-e gaming
rog zenith 2 extreme


ryzen 9 3950x
rog strix x570-f gaming
crosshair viii hero
gigabyte x570 gaming x atx

Money isnt a issue guys so please suggest whatever you think would be best for my needs.

Any help is appriciated so thank you in advance.
 
Whether money is an issue or not you surely still want the best performance-per-pound spent? What I mean by this is neither of those cpu choices offer good value for gaming. As an example you'd likely see no discernible difference between the chips you've chosen and a 3700X. Check out these benchmarks - https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_ryzen_threadripper_3970x_review,22.html

Now if you really want the absolute best because that's what you want there's no shame in it - go for it, get the 3950X. I cannot recommend the threadripper based on your usage and the cost of entry. If I were you I'd get the 3950X, a Gigabyte Aorus motherboard and some 3600 ram if AMD floats your boat. Intel are currently quicker in games but their latest platform is EOL and again the difference in frame-rates doesn't look huge, well not to me anyway :)
 
An x79er just like me. Going to hedt is a little bit more expensive now ain't it!

Just get a decent mobo.. Master or Pro, with a 3600x. See a massive difference now, then buy a 4950x in 2-3 years time.

You'll then get 8 years out of your mobo and ram.

A 4950x will be £300 in 3 years...

Nothing else makes any sense.
 
For gaming 12 core/24 thread is the highest real sense making.
Who knows how many years it will take for Intel to even reach that core count.
Saved money would pretty much get architecturally improved Zen3 to drop in after couple years.
That would give extra edge in performance for longer endurance over more cores which wouldn't have much any use.

Also while in previous AM4 boards you needed to go high in line up to get strong modern VRM, in X570 you get that at £200 level when choosing this time correct maker.
Higher price doesn't even mean all around better quality with marketroid designed chipset coolers!

All Asus X570 boards have chipset cooler directly under GPU and non-reference/blower cooler high end GPU basically baths it in heat.
But higher models even asphyxiate that chipset fan further with airflow restricting marketing excrements on top of it.
For example in Finnish PC forum one user had that super luxury priced CH VIII Hero having its chipset cook at 83C in longer gaming session, because of that bad design.
And you can bet room temperature wasn't high when outside temperature is just little above freezing.
You should be able to imagine how well it goes at summer, if there's no AC to keep room temperature from rising.

Gigabyte has overall better positioned chipset HSFs.
But there's similar marketroid design based degradation going from Aorus Elite through Pro to Ultra:
Elite has unobstructed chipset fan farthest from GPU, Pro moves it couple cm closer, and Ultra slaps in marketing excrement to restrict fan.
I mean shouldn't we get better quality everywhere when paying more?
 
Go for Threadripper if the cash is burning a hole in your pocket- otherwise, listen to the other folks here!

3950X should be your choice given your usage, and even that would be overkill. @Inoton hits it on the head for me.
 
Why are you changing GPUs?

Whilst money isnt an issue, surely your smart enough to want best value?
Agree that 3950x is a beast and might be worth it for the amount you get.
But for gaming you want i9, if productivity isnt the main driver here.
Therefore for few hundred less you get the best single core performing CPU.
 
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EsaT said:
For gaming 12 core/24 thread is the highest real sense making.
Who knows how many years it will take for Intel to even reach that core count.
Saved money would pretty much get architecturally improved Zen3 to drop in after couple years.
That would give extra edge in performance for longer endurance over more cores which wouldn't have much any use.

Also while in previous AM4 boards you needed to go high in line up to get strong modern VRM, in X570 you get that at £200 level when choosing this time correct maker.
Higher price doesn't even mean all around better quality with marketroid designed chipset coolers!

All Asus X570 boards have chipset cooler directly under GPU and non-reference/blower cooler high end GPU basically baths it in heat.
But higher models even asphyxiate that chipset fan further with airflow restricting marketing excrements on top of it.
For example in Finnish PC forum one user had that super luxury priced CH VIII Hero having its chipset cook at 83C in longer gaming session, because of that bad design.
And you can bet room temperature wasn't high when outside temperature is just little above freezing.
You should be able to imagine how well it goes at summer, if there's no AC to keep room temperature from rising.

Gigabyte has overall better positioned chipset HSFs.
But there's similar marketroid design based degradation going from Aorus Elite through Pro to Ultra:
Elite has unobstructed chipset fan farthest from GPU, Pro moves it couple cm closer, and Ultra slaps in marketing excrement to restrict fan.
I mean shouldn't we get better quality everywhere when paying more?
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Fascinating, I knew the x570 were just poorly conceived. Tripe power usage compared with x470 and this proprietary fan and poor placement. Just lessens longevity it seems.
 
masscrazy said:
Fascinating, I knew the x570 were just poorly conceived. Tripe power usage compared with x470 and this proprietary fan and poor placement. Just lessens longevity it seems.
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Actually X570 chipset consumes only ~4W more:
https://hexus.net/tech/news/mainboard/132515-der8auer-examines-amd-x570-chipset-power-consumption/

But lots of reviewers no doubt had bloatware running on background making supposed idle readings not idle readings.
I've seen similar insane idle draw measurement numbers also on older AM4 chipset PCs and even on Intel based PCs.
Also some over agressive monitoring softwares kept triggering Zen2 to boost preventing idling.

These readings are fully in line of that actual chipset power draw differnces:
https://nl.hardware.info/artikel/94...view-op-de-proef-met-een-3900x#stroomverbruik
 
metalmackey said:
Thanks guys,

So what motherboard would you recommend for a 3950x with a 2080ti.
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If you're going all-out on a rig that will last a good few years, the Asrock Taichi seems to be the bee's knees at the moment.
Just recently done a 3950x/2080Ti build for a friend (not so much after that..!) on a Gigabyte Aorus Pro. Didn't get much time to fiddle, but it struck me as a good,solid board.
 
DoneADougalOnSofa said:
If you're going all-out on a rig that will last a good few years, the Asrock Taichi seems to be the bee's knees at the moment.
Just recently done a 3950x/2080Ti build for a friend (not so much after that..!) on a Gigabyte Aorus Pro. Didn't get much time to fiddle, but it struck me as a good,solid board.
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Was it because the 2080Ti is seriously overkill suggestion? :p
 
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